Does Welfare Affect A Muslim's Loyalty to Islam/Muslims?

[Alluring]

This is what happens when people don't know about Islam.

Do you know that welfare (although I personally disapprove of it) is apart of the tenets of Islam?

[*Arabman]

[Do you know that welfare (although I personally disapprove of it) is apart of the tenets of Islam?]

How can one disapprove of what's part of the tenets of Islam?

[SummerRain]

[quote="Koronto91"]Welfare leads to broken families and lack of faith for Somalis and for the most part it is known to make them apologists.

Nothing beats earning a Halal living![/quote]

[Alluring]

I dislike when people misuse welfare, but I agree with welfare for individuals who are having a rough time with life.

But this post is not about me, but your ill informed rules on Islam.

Before you try to act like you know about the structure of Islam I suggest you READ the Qur'an FIRST.

[*Arabman]

Alluring, by your own admission, you disapprove of what's part of the tenets of Islam. I don't know what to make of that.

[Luq_Ganane]

Arabman, you've been spending too much time with selfish, deen misinterpeting, spoiled Gulf Arabs. The social values of the West when it comes to helping out the less fortunate is something to admire, and wish you would have the oppritunity to do the same in your country one day. Its called giving back sxb something a lot of selfish "Muslims" don't do,

[Alluring]

Your reverse psychology is indeed laughable to the point that it becomes unbearable.

[*Arabman]

[Your reverse psychology is indeed laughable to the point that it becomes unbearable.]

Alluring, admit it; you didn't mean what you wrote, for no Muslim can disapprove of what's part of the tenets of Islam. Please don't get distressed.

[FAH1223]

she probably meant that she disproves the abuse of welfare and no self-reliance (which is in the deen obviously too)

[Unclebin-]

Welfare equals kryptonite for somalis. They become like children in a candy store when that check drops.

[Alluring]

Fah,

I just stated what you said. He is disheartened that I made a complete fool out of him in regards to Islam and Welfare.

So he is using obvious grade school reverse psychology.

[Unclebin-]

Arabman

In the west even crackheads have a plate of food on there tables 9/10 .

In Saudi arabia there are many street beggars and rich arabs who turn there noses up to them when they ask for spare change.

The west is better in this regard.

[paidmonk]

Welfare is good.

[*Arabman]

We are talking here about Christian welfare. At present time, because there's no Caliphate, there's no Islamic welfare. It's obvious Christian welfare affects a Muslim's loyalty to Islam and Muslims. It's Christian welfare that produced individuals like Ayan Hersi.

[Unclebin-]

Ayan Hersi is who she is not because of welfare but because she didn't want to marry a cousin of hers in Toronto. The lady went bizzerk that a guy would be shafting her that she's never met. She then became an advocate of her dutch ways to get sharci and live far away from her arranged marriage.

She's obviously not stable. There are however hundreds of women who need welfare. Something that is indoctrinated in zakat and is a principle to help out the needy in our religion.