Does Welfare Affect A Muslim's Loyalty to Islam/Muslims?

[Alluring]

Welfare especially in North America is not about religion. When people get their checks I doubt it says "From Jesus with love"

[FAH1223]

[quote="Unclebin-"]Ayan Hersi is who she is not because of welfare but because she didn't want to marry a cousin of hers in Toronto. The lady went bizzerk that a guy would be shafting her that she's never met. She then became an advocate of her dutch ways to get sharci and live far away from her arranged marriage.

She's obviously not stable. There are however hundreds of women who need welfare. Something that is indoctrinated in zakat and is a principle to help out the needy in our religion.[/quote]

arranged marriage? you still believe that?

she had the time of her life during her wedding...its all on video

[Unclebin-]

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="Unclebin-"]Ayan Hersi is who she is not because of welfare but because she didn't want to marry a cousin of hers in Toronto. The lady went bizzerk that a guy would be shafting her that she's never met. She then became an advocate of her dutch ways to get sharci and live far away from her arranged marriage.

She's obviously not stable. There are however hundreds of women who need welfare. Something that is indoctrinated in zakat and is a principle to help out the needy in our religion.[/quote]

arranged marriage? you still believe that?

she had the time of her life during her wedding...its all on video [/quote]

STOP DUDE... YOUR NOT FUNNY !

[FAH1223]

[quote="Unclebin-"][quote="FAH1223"][quote="Unclebin-"]Ayan Hersi is who she is not because of welfare but because she didn't want to marry a cousin of hers in Toronto. The lady went bizzerk that a guy would be shafting her that she's never met. She then became an advocate of her dutch ways to get sharci and live far away from her arranged marriage.

She's obviously not stable. There are however hundreds of women who need welfare. Something that is indoctrinated in zakat and is a principle to help out the needy in our religion.[/quote]

arranged marriage? you still believe that?

she had the time of her life during her wedding...its all on video [/quote]

STOP DUDE... YOUR NOT FUNNY ![/quote]

you're funny cause you believe her stories

[Unclebin-]

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="Unclebin-"][quote="FAH1223"][quote="Unclebin-"]Ayan Hersi is who she is not because of welfare but because she didn't want to marry a cousin of hers in Toronto. The lady went bizzerk that a guy would be shafting her that she's never met. She then became an advocate of her dutch ways to get sharci and live far away from her arranged marriage.

She's obviously not stable. There are however hundreds of women who need welfare. Something that is indoctrinated in zakat and is a principle to help out the needy in our religion.[/quote]

arranged marriage? you still believe that?

she had the time of her life during her wedding...its all on video [/quote]

STOP DUDE... YOUR NOT FUNNY ![/quote]

you're funny cause you believe her stories [/quote]
No because I know her family. Reer Magan Ciise live here. Unlike you and your crazy BS. I have the facts.

[FAH1223]

[quote="Unclebin-"][quote="FAH1223"][quote="Unclebin-"][quote="FAH1223"][quote="Unclebin-"]Ayan Hersi is who she is not because of welfare but because she didn't want to marry a cousin of hers in Toronto. The lady went bizzerk that a guy would be shafting her that she's never met. She then became an advocate of her dutch ways to get sharci and live far away from her arranged marriage.

She's obviously not stable. There are however hundreds of women who need welfare. Something that is indoctrinated in zakat and is a principle to help out the needy in our religion.[/quote]

arranged marriage? you still believe that?

she had the time of her life during her wedding...its all on video [/quote]

STOP DUDE... YOUR NOT FUNNY ![/quote]

you're funny cause you believe her stories [/quote]

No because I know her family. Reer Magan Ciise live here. Unlike you and your crazy BS. I have the facts.[/quote]

yeah and the b1tch lives 15 mins down the parkway from me in DC and her cousin lives around here, smh

[paidmonk]

Showing off about who knows Ayan Xirsi better, you guys are abnormal...

[FAH1223]

[quote="paidmonk"]Showing off about who knows Ayan Xirsi better, you guys are abnormal... [/quote]

I don't know the b1tch, I'd love to have a chance to meet her though and set her straight

but walahi, hooyo knows her cousin who lives in this area and thats the info.. along with the qarxis she suffered by the dutch

[Luq_Ganane]

[quote="Alluring"]Welfare especially in North America is not about religion. When people get their checks I doubt it says "From Jesus with love"[/quote]

[*Arabman]

[Welfare especially in North America is not about religion. When people get their checks I doubt it says "From Jesus with love"]

The checks come from Jesuits, but it's doubtful if they send it out of love.

[N@steexo]

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="paidmonk"]Showing off about who knows Ayan Xirsi better, you guys are abnormal... [/quote]

I don't know the b1tch, I'd love to have a chance to meet her though and set her straight

but walahi, hooyo knows her cousin who lives in this area and thats the info.. along with the qarxis she suffered by the dutch[/quote]

FAH you're right, the wedding took place in Kenya and she was in love with the dude.

[Grant]

[quote="*Arabman"][Welfare especially in North America is not about religion. When people get their checks I doubt it says "From Jesus with love"]

The checks come from Jesuits, but it's doubtful if they send it out of love.[/quote]

The US has separation of church and state. Welfare money comes from a variety of local and federal sources, but the programs are administered, and the checks are written, by the counties. Access to it is based solely on need. There is no religious component or requirement.

There are various Catholic charities, some of which may be administered by the Jesuits, but they are not part of the welfare system.

[kambuli]

Arabman, quote " and especially being independent to criticize the West.

And why do I want to criticize the West?

If I want to criticize I will criticize our men (Somalis) who have ruined, raped, destructed and killed what was once called Somalia...

When you guys killed your own people, the West opened their generous hands towards these people...and helped them out...Allaah SWT does not love ungrateful people...


Having said that, Welfare is a system for the unlucky and -not haves- It is good to be out of the system and be yourself specially people who live in North America have a lot of opportunities...One can work two full time jobs or study full time and work fulltime, part time is always available... You name it...


What is horrible and shameful is to abuse the Welfare system

[*Arabman]

[And why do I want to criticize the West? ]

Secular Muslims aren't required to criticize America/Europe.

[When you guys killed your own people, the West opened their generous hands towards these people...and helped them out...]

It boils down to economics. America and Europe cannot function without new immigrants who provide cheap labor & taxes, workers who complain less, people who endure discrimination because of their race, color, religion, etc. Secularizing Muslim immigrants is another goal. It got little to do with opening generous hands.