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Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:41 pm
by Somali2003
Noangst, Politics does not know kith and kin. We are not going to sacrifice everything for a mere kith and kin. We have a self-defined interests and when our expectancies are not met, we will transform into ethnonationalists that would opt for an exit in the form of regional state.

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:44 pm
by FAH1223
[quote="Somali2003"]Fah1223, why are you laughing? I am curious Laughing[/quote]

I hate using Qabil language

but the MJs don't want to see you go Laughing

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:55 pm
by NoAngst.
Somali20003, you're missing the bigger strategic picture. A fissured and fragmented Harti block means less security for constituent blocks, like Warsangelis. It doesn't bode well for Maakhiir state simply because it will arouse latent expansionism in Isaaqs, with Isaaqs now able to prey on Warsans alone and then move on to dhulbahante and then, ominously for a southerner, to Majeerteenia. The greatest threat Northern Darods face is from the Isaaqs 'cause no Hawiye will venture beyond Gaalkacyo not only because it's not traditional Hawiye land (safe for fiqishini) but barren, desolate land resembling the dark side of the moon. No Hawiye will be caught dead there forget fighting for it. So, beware of the many false prophets and wolves that come in sheep's clothing... this Maakhirland is sinister plan to divide and conquer darodia. It was crafted in Mogadisho and Hargeysa by the Irrir union.

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:10 pm
by Somali2003
NoAngst, A powerful Maakhir and Puntland will effectively and jointly combat the secessionists Isaaq. You have to understand the realist concept of the SECURITY DILEMMA by Bary Pose who argued that intense military or ethnic conflict(read ethnic as clan) in collapsed states has been highly probable. Maakhir is part of the successor entities that emerged out of the wreckage of Somalia and since its people are known to be peaceful and historically independent clan, the Iidoorland wouldn't be alarmed of its potential capacity to aborting its dream of statehood. Due to the prevailing political condition in Somalia, every clan is afraid of other clan but once that fear is moisted rather than stoked by belligerent leaders, I think peace will reign.

Let me say that the Harti compact is more of illusive than reality and its application of groupness or cohesion won't help if Sanaag is attacked today by the Somaliland because we Warsangeli singlehandedly stood as the bulwark of our country's defense. Remember, Adde's departure to Dubai when SL troops neared to capture Dhahar. As a matter of fact, the biggest security threat Maakhir faced came from Puntland aka Majeerteeniaya than Isaaqland.

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:11 pm
by Somali2003
[quote="FAH1223"][quote="Somali2003"]Fah1223, why are you laughing? I am curious Laughing[/quote]

I hate using Qabil language

but the MJs don't want to see you go Laughing[/quote]


We will be with them in times of crisis like when the Sacad try to capture Galkacyo.

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:33 pm
by Somali2003
Angst, I missed your satirical point of the desolate nature of the North. Not all of the North are desert and desolate land scape. The Al Madow Land Scape is a magnficent and attractive pasture with waterfalls and fertile area. Galgala alone exports many types of fruits. Besides, our region is a major candidate for oil , gas, and minerals. It is very rich region once its resources are tapped.

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:27 pm
by Ican
[quote="NoAngst."]Somali20003, you're missing the bigger strategic picture. A fissured and fragmented Harti block means less security for constituent blocks, like Warsangelis. It doesn't bode well for Maakhiir state simply because it will arouse latent expansionism in Isaaqs, with Isaaqs now able to prey on Warsans alone and then move on to dhulbahante and then, ominously for a southerner, to Majeerteenia. The greatest threat Northern Darods face is from the Isaaqs 'cause no Hawiye will venture beyond Gaalkacyo not only because it's not traditional Hawiye land (safe for fiqishini) but barren, desolate land resembling the dark side of the moon. No Hawiye will be caught dead there forget fighting for it. So, beware of the many false prophets and wolves that come in sheep's clothing... this Maakhirland is sinister plan to divide and conquer darodia. It was crafted in Mogadisho and Hargeysa by the Irrir union.[/quote]

Ironic that the 'desolate' northeast is in better shape politically, economically than the south with the bountiful rain. Land is never an issue, it's the ingenuity and resourcefulness of people that make or break a society.

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:17 am
by Somali2003
Ican, he forget to mention the fertile Jubaland, which is a traditional land for the Daarood.

Where is the Irir Union?

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:28 am
by wadaniweyn1
[quote="Somali2003"]Nkrumah writes: "The northern Somali oil-rich autonomous region of Maakhir declared its independence on 1 July 2007. Like neighbouring Puntland -- the stronghold of President Youssef -- it is an economically thriving region with standards of living much higher than the average for Somalia as a whole -- per capita income is $1,600 in Puntland, compared with $600 in the rest of Somalia. Remittances from overseas Somalis are also helping to rebuild the northern autonomous regions of Puntland and Maakhir. Brisk trade with Gulf Arab countries has contributed to rapid economic growth in the northern parts of the country.

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2007/859/re63.htm[/quote]


mirqaan state is the richest state in somalia and i am the mahdi Laughing Laughing Laughing

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:44 am
by Somali2003
Traitorboy, think of the ways to disarm the marauding Mooryaans that terrorize the neighborhoods of Mogadisho and their drug-lords who have grown fat on the looted property of the public.

Re: Maakhir State is being described as a very rich state byNkru

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:20 pm
by Somali2003
Baydhabo:- Xubnaha Baarlamaanka Federaalka Soomaaliyeed ee u dhashey Gobolada Maakhir ayaa taageero, tahniyad iyo boogaadin usoo diraya Dowlad Goboleedka cusub ee Maakhir State of Somalia oo dhowaan ka hirgashey Gobolada Sanaag iyo Galbeedka Gobolka Bari.

Xubanaha ayaa waxay tahniyad diiran u dirayaan Maamulka Maakhir State of Somalia iyo hogaanka Sare ee Maamulkaas iyagoo sheegey iney Maamulkan oo kale uu soo daahey oo la doonayey iney qabsoonto mar hore

Xubanaha Baarlamaanka Federaalka ee u dhashey Gobolada Maakhir ayaa waxay kula talinayaan Dowlad Goboleedka cusub sidii ay uga shaqeyn lahayd danaha Gobolada Sanaag iyo Galbeedka Bari oo isla markaana ay cadaalad iyo wax qabad ku dhaqaaqaan.

Xubaha Baarlamaanka Federaalka ee u dhashey Maakhir ayaa waxay intaa raacinayaan tahniyad kale oo ku socota dhamaan dadweynaha Reer Maakhir iyagoo ugu baaqaya iney la shaqeeyaan Dowladooda u dhalatey isla markaana ay garab istagaan Dowladooda si ay u gadato Dowladu hawsheeda Qaran.

Xubahaha Baarlamaanka Federaalka ee u dhashey Maakhir ee baaqan soo gaarsiiyey Saxaafada ayaa ah dhamaan xubnaha Baarlamaanka Federaalka oo ay ugu horeeyaan Casha Cabadalle iyo Gen. Cabduraxman Maxamuud Cali Bayr oo ahaan jirey Wasiirkii hore ee Difaaca ee Somalia.

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