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KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby Somaliweyn » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:13 pm

Biased comparison....Xamar's busiest place is not the entrypoint from Balcad. Bakaarah and Bacaad are the busiest roads in Mogadishu.

Also, since you want to compare Afganistan and Somalia which seem to witness the same phenomena: Warlordship, foreign occupation, puppet regime, divided country, taliban the loose heads, civil society, diaspora groups etc.

Who is in better place and will, judging from the experience of other historical cases, overcome the current mess?

Most definetly Somalia. Why?

You only have to look at the main protaganist in this mess: Warlordism,

This phenomenon is not new in the world, Republican China witnessed it after the central power fel into the hands of warlords and as a consequence became divided. Medival Europe during feudalism witnessed it which was divided into fiefdoms controlled either by landlords, princeses, kings and bishops. In Europe it took several centuries to overcome it, in China it took mere decades (1919-49) to overcome it.

The two crucial factors which ''saved'' the societies of China and Medieval Europe were:

- the emergence of strong, aggrieved economic interest groups that led the charge against the existing system
-the appearance of transformative ideas from outside the existing culture that supported those groups’ aims and convinced an increasingly literate population of the desirability of change.

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In what country are these two crucial factors developing? Somalia or Afganistan?

Facts on the ground point out to Somalia.
A study was conducted to the phenomenon of Warlordism, it is titled: Warlordism in Comparative Perspective, written by Kimberly Marten.

The conclusion of this analysis for Somalia and Afganistan was:

''Powerful interest groups have had a strong sense of economic grievance in
contemporary Somalia, and the international cellphone networks of Somalia’s
large diaspora have become a means for outside ideas to penetrate the country.
Somalia may thus be ripe for a successful anti-warlord revolution.

In contrast to Somalia, contemporary Afghanistan lacks both strong national
economic interest groups that are aggrieved by warlordism, and reliable mechanisms
for the widespread communication of transformative ideas.''

Our future is bright, a commercial economy is taking root in Mogadishu and Somalia in large, and a young generation of Western-educated Somalis who will bring back knowledge to their land. The two most crucial ingredients for modernization and economic development.

Young Somalis should look to the future with their heads up. Looking to the past which is the product of the older generation of Somalis only depresses us and this will negatively affect the product of our generation.

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby FAH1223 » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:21 pm

we have this on Afghanistan

the longest coastline on the African continent

Pashtuns don't have a port (nice mountains though)

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby Metal » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:22 pm

Somaliweyn

I looked for a half-hour for the busiest area in Xamar, that's all I found. If you want to google earth a better region in Xamar, go ahead and find it for me.

FAH1223,

We are the poorest people with the largest natural advantages; you've buried us even more. Sad

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby FAH1223 » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:25 pm

[quote="Metal"]Somaliweyn

I looked for a half-hour for the busiest area in Xamar, that's all I found. If you want to google earth a better region in Xamar, go ahead and find it for me.

FAH1223,

We are the poorest people with the largest natural advantages; you've buried us even more. Sad[/quote]

dude, who says we can't use them? Other Somalis?

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby Alchemist » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:28 pm

Yeah, Somalia is sh^t..... The funny part is we have idiots who repeatedly post videos and pictures of their regions bragging about how their region is better than the rest. Honestly if somalia was as good as we claimed we all wouldnt be in the west, the truth is everyone in that country is trying to leave whenever they get the chance...

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby King-of-Awdal » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:29 pm

Poor and still proud of being a somali. eh what. Cool

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby Metal » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:30 pm

King of Awdal, shut up. Cool

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby King-of-Awdal » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:33 pm

[quote="Metal"]King of Awdal, shut up. Cool[/quote]

i concur. Laughing by the way did u know Led Zepplin is doing a reunion Gig i hope they have one in the states. Sad

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby MJ-Pride » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:58 pm

Once Somalis get their act together(and that takes something), I reckon we will build New Somalia in no time. We have over 7 millions all over the world. Imagine what an influx of 7 millions Somalis would do. Also, if we get the Oil, It should help us build Somalia even more faster.

Reading this thread almost braught me to tears. Its true that we are really cursed. 19 years of conflicts and what are we fighting over? Barren lands! We are really sicker than what I though...

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby Biif Baaf » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:00 am

MJ-Pride: Amen to your vision. Insha Allah...dhinaca Alle all possibilities are endless and nothing is impossible.

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby Metal » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:39 am

Awdal,

Led Zeppelin is behind my times; tell me about Slayer and Pantera any day though. Smile


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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby Somali_4Life » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:19 am

Dont ever compare somalia(weither this is north somalia or south somalia)to great Afghanistan where arabs and persians ruled it! Look the mosques built in Afghanistan, a example of great architecture.Look the Bhudda statue destroyed by Taliban.
Wallahi,you cant compare this ancient country to somalia.Somalia has almost nothing to be proud of.You know that.We are just nomadic people. Laughing

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby Password » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:04 am

Too all the proponents of clan animosities on this website, take note and promise to leave the hatemongering behind, do your part and bring hearts and minds together, that is the only way forward to recovery. In this day and age, when societies of different ethnicities and cultures are opening their borders linking to one another for the prosperity of their coming generations, and for the benefit of the living, we are mindlessly happy to fight over our dead and dying. We have lost everything that made us unique and we made ourselves vulnerable to opportunistic enemy next door who is too happy to see us weak and devided.

So I ask you wholeheartedly, what have you done for mother Somalia? havwe you in anyway contributed to its misery by promoting clan hate?

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Re: KABUL vs. XAMAR: Google Earth

Postby Aliyah99 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:06 am

Aaaaaaah how touching heart heart heart

Not! Now somali men can add wallowing in self pity to their long list of undesirable attributes.

There is one positive thing to come out of all the misery you caused though, Somali men Isaaq, Hawiye Daarood you are the BEST taxi and bus drivers in the western hemisphere up Laughing


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