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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby Advocatar » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:15 pm

Mj-pride and his fake stories, kinda reminds me of waris diiriye FGM exploitation......bismilah cidiina wax ka been badan ma arkin. Laughing



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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby neocon_2007 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:53 pm

PL never had any determining factor for Warsangelis success especially in the sphere of Somalia politics. 1960 was the day Warsangelis lost all not being proactive in any Somali politics and being a indepedent what resulted little seats in our own region zero development and other Somalias like the poster himself comparing us to weak and lesser groups to the west. Our glory and dynasty died when Warsangeli Country joined Somalia, its only in 2007 we realized we messed up big time neglecting our own region and being active with PL. Slow but some progress is happening will build roads, schools, ports and institution the former goverment of Somalia failed it would be of best for Warsangeli Country, Maakhir, to declare soverignty and remain isolated from Somalia proper.

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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby Luq_Ganane » Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:22 pm

Horta, these opinions are my own. Politcal views are made on one's own interpetation of events as he seems them, not what tol you come from. Everybody can have different opinions, and this was just a personal observation I made. Laughing

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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby 1nemansquad » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:09 pm

Luq, like I said to the Idoor's that are talking out of their ass. 'every dirt has something to say about Dhulbahante' and your just another dirt.

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Re: I feel sorry for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby Ashlee » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:18 pm

[quote="paidmonk"]:arrow: Not gonna help Jubbaland one bit. Laughing[/quote]

My thoughts exactly.

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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby XidigtaJSL » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:05 pm

Mareexaan and Ogaadeen are independent and have learned long time ago what Majirtaan are made of, Barre found out that Majirtaan are no tol and can not be trusted thats why he killed many of them and they turned around and took revenge on the innocent Somalilanders in the name of Dowlada Somaliyeed, Morgan as the head of it. Warsangeli woke up to this reality and formed their own, Dhulus found out the hard way last Monday when the women Majirtaan ran away and deserted Laascaanood for the Dhulbahante to defend, so much for Harti brotherhood Laughing



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Waxaan u gudbayaa arinkan ku soo kordhay deegaamadii aynu ka soo jeednay! Oo runtii aad moodo in aan weli si mug leh looga doodin ama aan loogu samayn qiimayn dhab ah oo ku fadhida xaqiiqda.

Waayo maalin hore oo ay in badan oo ka mid ah dadkeena ay lahaayeen “Laascaano waa la qabsday iyo lama qabsan” ayaan soo ban dhigay aragti odhanaysa macno aniga ii smayn mayso qabsashada magaaladaasi inta arinku sidan yahay! Ee aan la helin xal siyaasi ah oo lagu so af jaro culayskan iyo daruurtan colaadeed ee mudada shanta sano ah dul taagnayd dadkeena iyo deegaankeena.

Hadaba maantana waxaan idin leeyahay macno ii samayn mayso cid kastoo qabsatay ama qabsan doonta inta arinku sidan inaga yahauy! [Ninka hadraawi la yidhaahdo ayaa maanso uu leeyahay waxa ku jirtay “weli gumicii meel baydhsan buu gawda ku hayaa! Ee inta maanku gaajaysan yahay guuli waa weli”

Waxaa muhiim ah in aynu soo ban dhigno xeel dheerida iyo taariikhda uu deegaankani leeyahay; waa in aynu ka fogaanaa wax kasta oo xanbaarsan caadifad iyo hebelo isu muuqda oo kala riixanaya kuraas aanay cidna ugu danaynayn; waa in aynu ka fekernaa bad-baadada dadkeena iyo deegaankeena; waa in aynu ka fogaano in aynu isu eekaysiino umad diciif ah oo cidi gumaysan karto; waa in aynu noqono umad meel kasta oo ay joogto mudakar ku ah; waa in aynu ka xishoono hadaladan diciifka ah ee xanbaarsan fulaynimada aan lagu aqoon deegamadan ee odhanaysa “ Isaaq baa ina qabsanaya! Ama Harti ayaa ina difaacaya” waxaan odhan lahaa raga sidaas u fekeraaya please ha naga xumaynina taariikhda! Lamana hayo taariikhda maalin uu deegaankan iyo dadkiisu ku baxsaday hiil Harti. Sidoo kale lama hayo meel Isaaq inagaaga bursaday iyo gole aynu habrasho ku joognay!

Mar hadaan ahay umada karaamadaas leh waa maxay habrashada iyo muusanawga ay ka xishoodeen Awoowayaasheen ee aynu manta dadkeena iyo deegaankeenaba u horseedaynaa? Tusaale waxaan idin waydiinayaa Su-aal culus ee bal please jawaabteeda soo ban dhiga; Taariikhda ma la hayaa maalin Dadka dega deegaanka SSC uu ku baxsaday hiil harti? Ma jirtaa maalin aynu Isaaq ugu qayshanay hiil xataa Daarood wayne? Ma jirtaa maalin aan majeerteen dan mooday oo aan ka helay gacan walaalnimo? Waxa kale oo aan idin odhan lahaa bal ka fekera gunimada ay leedahay in reerku hoos galo cid leh waan idin difaacayaa iyo in uu keligii rag wax la qaybsado?

Waxaad ogaataan nin kastaa wuxuu doonayo ayuu heli doonaa; ee ma idin la tahay in aynu u noqono taariikhda deegaankeena? Hadaan soo uruuriyo waxaan weli leeyahay walaalayaal waxaynu u baahanahay xal degdeg ah oo aan ahayn hoos galka difaac Harti iyo cabsi isaaq midna!

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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby neocon_2007 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:26 pm

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]Horta, these opinions are my own. Politcal views are made on one's own interpetation of events as he seems them, not what tol you come from. Everybody can have different opinions, and this was just a personal observation I made. Laughing[/quote]


Nah, your just ill informed, you see the need to pull in Warsanegli side by side with Dhulbhante who share nothing in common with us only over the wrong doing of the PL administration. Yes Warsangelis wasted there time with PL however it wasnt PLs fault for all, Warsangelis never put there interests first nor assume political weight in PL to dominate the administration and focus on Sanaag and building some infrustracture there. We left empty handed but we learned from the mistake which will inshallah wake up Warsangeli and restore the dynasty. We were never in the same league as mountain herders and nomads, Isaaqs and Adde wont stand in the way of a united Warsangeli, which we are now.

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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby paidmonk » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:42 pm

Puntland State did not pull down Dulbahante or Warsangali nor did it give them a promise to build them. But Puntland Administration (Majerteeniya) did not intend to benefit from those people nor did it benefit greatly. Only the Dulbahante gave something to the state, and that was troops, tons of them.

Cadde Musse and Abdullahi Yusuf did not build Gaalkacyo and Bosaso, the locals and the diaspora did. The only city in Puntland that benefited from the state was Garowe and it serves as the capital, and it really isn't much of a deal, its just more organized and cleaner than SSC cities, but its not impressive by a mile.

Maakhir was the greatest thing that happened to Warsangali. Self determination is the way to go. Big fish like the Warsangali clan cannot operate with, especially under - other clans. But Dulbahante and Warsangali will need each other since Dhullos do not have a port. Sharing is caring.

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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby neocon_2007 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:51 pm

[quote="paidmonk"]Puntland State did not pull down Dulbahante or Warsangali nor did it give them a promise to build them. But Puntland Administration (Majerteeniya) did not intend to benefit from those people nor did it benefit greatly. Only the Dulbahante gave something to the state, and that was troops, tons of them.

Cadde Musse and Abdullahi Yusuf did not build Gaalkacyo and Bosaso, the locals and the diaspora did. The only city in Puntland that benefited from the state was Garowe and it serves as the capital, and it really isn't much of a deal, its just more organized and cleaner than SSC cities, but its not impressive by a mile.

Maakhir was the greatest thing that happened to Warsangali. Self determination is the way to go. Big fish like the Warsangali clan cannot operate with, especially under - other clans. But Dulbahante and Warsangali will need each other since Dhullos do not have a port. Sharing is caring.[/quote]


Negro, you got a port Bosasso, we live EXCLUSIVELY among ourselves, Maakhir, we have a large Dsiporara thats why many under rate Warsangeli when were in the west in abundance. Why would Maakhir state need Dhulbhante maybe the reverse where it would be benefiting for either SL or Dhulos to use Las Qoray rather the Bosasso if tarriffs and taxes are more competitive. Warsangeli population wise exceeds Dhulos and are probably the top two largest of the Darood sub clans IN SOMALIA, but we are extremely under represented in politics and not active in it. Where doing fine, if Dhulbhante or Majateen want to contribute in building a university in Buraan they can, same with roads and the port which is inhabitated by a Warsangeli majority. The logic is flawed with either partnering with Majarteenia which resulted in what we left with or Dhulbhante who are light years behind. Confused

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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby Somali2003 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:21 am

Neocon, It is not authentic to say or reflect Bosaso's success on two clans, namely Dishishe and Warsangeli, but Mjs also have contributed Esp the Isman Mohamouds who have stake in there and Ali Saleeban migrants from the deep hell hole of Qandala. Puntland will still exist but its political leverage would be greatly reduced with the creation of Maakhir. Let me make myself clear. The future construction of LasQorey port does not hinge on assumptions that Warsangeli are dissatisfied with the revenues of the taxable business assets and tarrifs of Bosaso's port. 80% of what is gained from this port is used on the salaries of ministers, weapons and troops and last but not least the rest goes into the pockets of corrupt leaders. The population of many of the villages of Majerteen and towns are living in dire situations , malnutrition and lack of clean water and deforestation top the agenda of NGOs that operate there.However, Lasqorey project is not only to stimulate economic growth in the region but also help the construction of other infrastructure, which is badly missing in Sanaag all the way to Togdheer, an economic neglect created by the former tribal chieftain of Somalia namely Mohamed Bare.

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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby Somali2003 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:39 am

[quote="paidmonk"]Puntland State did not pull down Dulbahante or Warsangali nor did it give them a promise to build them. But Puntland Administration (Majerteeniya) did not intend to benefit from those people nor did it benefit greatly. Only the Dulbahante gave something to the state, and that was troops, tons of them.

.[/quote]


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Re: To Bad for Dhulos and Warsengeli......

Postby Luq_Ganane » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:23 am

[quote="Somali2003"] economic neglect created by the former tribal chieftain of Somalia namely Mohamed Bare.[/quote]]

Can we say flip flopper? Laughing

Yesterday MSB was the "Best president of all time" and today he is a "tribal chieftain". So did my expressed sentiments bring about this shift? Confused Laughing


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