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Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby BABYGIRL123 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:07 pm

The day the sheikhs conquered few inches we were hearing how darood was going to be massacared and the today we are hearing of somalinimo and muslinimo lol Laughing until real sheikhs come by stick with dowladina. Cool

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby Shirib » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:19 pm

Are you saying that Cayrow isn't a real sheik. When in fact he was out risking his life fighting for the cause of Allah in Afghanistan, against the Russians.

He is a mujahid and everybody agrees on that, and since you are neither mujahid nor scholar of Islam you nor anyone has a right to talk ill about a man who was fighting for the cause of Allah, cause we have not.

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby Gedo_Boy » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:28 pm

It seems like he is learning diplomacy now when it would have been far less costly to learn it a few years ago.

But still waxba kama sheegi karo at least he is fighting like he said he would unlike IndhaCadde Laughing

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby sadeboi » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:32 pm

GB, he has learned diplomacy, but to be honest waxa ku dhacayo shacabka Muqdisho was loo fiirsado ma'aho. People should listen to his plea and join the fight.

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby Gedo_Boy » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:35 pm

Sadeboi,

Yeah I'm just saying that a little humility from the beginning would have went a long way.

If Amxaaro were in the city I lived in I would be bombing them too.


Just a while ago Mogadishu was feared by Addis Ababa look where we are now Confused

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby Luq_Ganane » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:42 pm

Muhahid Aden Xaashi Cerow is a good, sincere man. Infact at one point he wasn't even on speaking terms with Indacadde because of some no cadaalad things he saw going on. I think the warloards and Eithiopian forces are one and the same and both should be fought, knocking out two birds with one stone.

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby Somaliweyn » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:50 pm

''Yeah I'm just saying that a little humility from the beginning would have went a long way.''

Ever thought of the possibility that the UIC group did it on purpose? Already planned this course of events...so they can play the long-term card?

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Postby sadeboi » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:55 pm

[quote="Somaliweyn"]''Yeah I'm just saying that a little humility from the beginning would have went a long way.''

Ever thought of the possibility that the UIC group did it on purpose? Already planned this course of events...so they can play the long-term card?[/quote]

Laughing Laughing Laughing

How so somaliweyn???

The ICU messed up the best chance of peace for Somalis, when they captured Muqdisho from the warlords and all Somalis were willing to work with them, instead of diplomacy and what not they wanted to use the iron fist and attacked Kismayo,Cabudwaaq,Gaalkacayo, and Baidoa. They messed up. Even puntlanders supported them.

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Postby Gedo_Boy » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:59 pm

Somaliweyn,

Yeah the long-term card for the interests of Eritrea not Somalia. They are the only ones that benefit from this unequivocally by hoping to drag Ethiopia into an Iraq-style quagmire.

If their long-term plan was to drag Ethiopia in to unify Somalia, that is fine.....but in the months up to the US-sponsored Ethio invasion they dismantled whatever goodwill they were earning over the years in Xamar. That should have been the time they were shoring up political support and domestic goodwill.

But they made a vicious blunder just b/c they were getting some free cimaamads/timir/money from the Arab countries and weapons/support from Ethiopia they felt they could afford to neglect and ignore internal Somali goodwill. I said this way back then that they were alienating domestic Somali support for the sake of Arab patronage and I also said that "The minute America tells the Arabs to STOP IT with a straight face" the Arabs would withdraw their support from the ICU and that was the beginning of their downfall b/c they were left hi 'n dry. I was 100% accurate in this analysis and that is what happened EXACTLY from Egypt, Sudan, the Gulf etc.

This conflict will either pull Somalia together or split it apart permanently........we need a miracle.


At least they could have waited a few months/years to learn from Eritrea/Egypt/Iran how to conduct efficient counter-insurgency and basic explosives knowhow like making IEDs and neutralizing the Ethio heavy armor.

Aspiring Ethiopian politicians used to make hijrah to Xamar and throw themselves at the mercy of Madaxtooyada and now we have Ethiopian tanks infiltrating every corridor.

There was always border infiltration....in fact several of my aunts/uncles parents were killed by Amxaaro, but Xamar was the bastion of Somali pride.

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby Somaliweyn » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:09 pm

^^

I mean the long-term card beneficial to their cause and agenda for Somalia.

Let me explain why I think they did it on purpose. I already wrote it in another topic before taking a short vacation.


''If you look at the sequence of events that lead to the shamefull occupation of Somalia and its capital, one can clearly see that Ethiopia used its puppet regime to legitimize its occupation of border-areas in Somalia. Like for example Baidoba, Bakool, Hiiraan etc. This was the springboard for the eventual invasion in which they were helped by the ignorant, cloud-dwelling religious opportunists, and ‘legitimized’ by the Tigre Federal Group while the International community silently approves it.

Then, there was the extremist group, who have hijacked the legitimate cause of the Somali people against the Ethiopian encroachment and have distorted the legitimate National struggle of Somalis to unite and ward of any Ethiopian interference in Somalia's affaires into an International Struggle against Western interference into Muslim affaires.

By hijacking our legitimate cause and National Struggle the cloud-dwelling religious opportunists have turned International community against our cause, since the International community became suspicious of the jihad-yelling fanatics. Ofcourse this played right into the hands of Ethiopia's planned invasion of Somalia, since suddenly Washington was more then willing to assist the Ethiopians in their invasion militarily, logistically, financially and politically.

In 2005, there was a Topic created by Nolol Cusub, in which we discussed how the extremist national traitor Aweys would play right into the hands of Washington and Addis Abbeba. Arrowhttp://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=249&t=34315

In that year, we thought he would do this unwittingly........BUT it is now clear then ever that Aweys and co were aware of this fact, and that their defeat was not a miscalculation but on the contrary, a well-calculated evacuation plan in order for the Ethiopians to occupy Somalia. Why would they do this? Their ideology was not convincing, Somali people were Nationalistic oriented not towards the International Struggle of Alqaida. So they calculated that if Ethiopia occupies Somalia and its Capital and Somalis will endure this bitter occupation then eventually Somalis will embrace the UIC since they are the group fighting the occupation. They play the long-term card...the 7 days defeat was just a short-term defeat which they calculated in advance.


How do we know this?

Just look at the leadership of UIC...it is intact, they fought 7 days, and immediately executed their well-planned evacuation operation. Suddenly the likes of Indha Cadde, Sheekh Shariif, Janaqo, Aweys dissapeared.....and now surfaced back again as the leadership of the ''Liberation Alliance''.

If they miscalculated they would not have the time to disperse and surface back again with the leadership intact.''

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby Somaliweyn » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:14 pm

Look at the present situation now:

All sane Somalis are against the brutal Ethiopian occupation.

There are countless elements fighting this occupation, but only one group is well-organized and has disproportional representation: UIC and their branch AlShabab in Mogadishu.

If you look at the heaviest fighting against the Ethiopian occupation which was March-April 2007, you can see that UIC contribution to this cause was limited to nice speeches from airconditioned hotel-rooms, the asmara circus held, and a few hunderd al-shabab fighters....while the largest group fighting the Ethiopians and their puppets were just clan militia.

The UIC group has calculated by turning Somalia into a hell, people would give support to any group fighting the occupation. And here is where their organisation comes into play, since they seem to steal the show, while the bulk of fighting is done by clan militia's that have nothing in common with the UIC ideology and agenda for Somalia.

This is what I mean they played the long-term card.

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby adanboy » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:14 pm

[quote="Gedo_Boy"]Sadeboi,

Yeah I'm just saying that a little humility from the beginning would have went a long way.

If Amxaaro were in the city I lived in I would be bombing them too.


Just a while ago Mogadishu was feared by Addis Ababa look where we are now Confused[/quote]


Cayrow has allways been humble and steadfast..

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby Voltage » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:18 pm

Adanboy is it true his family "Cayrow" waxaa loogu biyey cuz Mareexaan bay dhex dagi jireen and they were the only Cayr there so Cayrow baa awoowgi la oran jiray I just heard that yesterday from this Majeerteen at a maqaayad Laughing Laughing

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby Shirib » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:19 pm

Somaliweyn

Reality they probably didn't think of it that way.

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Re: Macalin Aadan Cayrow: Taangiga maanta Xamar taagan berri wux

Postby sadeboi » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:24 pm

Somaliweyn nice writing, but I doubt they thought like that. I don't think these guys had long-term goal or anything. They were of coincidence, after the isbaheysiga argagaxisada started attacking them and the fought did they come to the scene and that was when the whole ICU started, shortly afterwards is when they started to attack. You are also forgetting they bunch of dugsi teachers.


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