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Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:53 pm
by Somafiia
Seems that Somaliland is receiving more interms of international attention than the ogaden region why is that?

Which struggle is older? Somaliland has done alot since 1991..ogaden had since the 70's to free thier land?. I think the ogaden struggle has bein around longer but it really isnt going any where. Why is that? lack of leadership? Ethiopia?

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:30 am
by DANGIRL
You can't even compare the those two places to begin with.But if you must know the real reason why the ogaden cause doesnt recieve enough attention?? This is because the United States, European Union, and the international community all turn a blind eye to the abuses carried out by the Ethiopian in the name of terrorism.

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:32 am
by Twisted_Logic
You need a strong central government to bring international issues such as that of the Ogaden to the international fray, unfortunatly, the lack of a central government means that our people in the Ogaden will suffer as we kill one another in our own Somalia. Unity and a vision for a better tomorrow is the need of the hour. Sad

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:00 am
by Somafiia
I also think it has alot to do with lack of unity. Why is it that Eritrea a group of Ethnic groups can liberate their land and Somali galbeed cant?...I mean we beat Eritrea in population by couple million. Trust me all odds were also against Eritrea and its struggle for self determination.

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:08 am
by DANGIRL
Twisted Logic,It should be pointed out that there is something called Article 39 in the Ethiopian Constitution that gives every region the right to secede from Ethiopia and form their own government.When the people of the Ogaden were allowed to vote,84% of the voters wanted to be govern by the ONLF,but what seen as a surprising turn, turned out not to be.

Somafiia,the lack of unity has to do with people having a hard time accepting what the ONLF stands for and the region being named after a tribe.For most non-ogaadeens people in ogaden, life under the Ethiopian regime is more acceptable than to fight.

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:12 am
by Samatr
ONLF can free Zone 5 only when it does one of two things, unite all Somalis in the Zone 5 Somali region. The second thing it should do is go for the head of Meles Zenawi and all the people against the cause of secession from Ethiopia, assassinating Zenawi and his cronies ; if you want to kill a snake you don't cut its tail, you cut its head off.

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:14 am
by Advocatar
[quote="Samatr"]ONLF can free Zone 5 only when it does one of two things, unite all Somalis in the Zone 5 Somali region. The second thing it should do is go for the head of Meles Zenawi and all the people against the cause of secession from Ethiopia, assassinating Zenawi and his cronies ; if you want to kill a snake you don't cut its tail, you cut its head off.[/quote]

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Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:19 am
by Gedo_Boy
Samatr up up

yes unite all Somalis in zone 5 and zone 6 Laughing

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:20 am
by Somafiia
If this region receives more then semi autonomy, Im pretty sure the name "ogaden" or "Ogadenia" will need to be changed immediately.

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:23 am
by Twisted_Logic
[quote="DANGIRL"]Twisted Logic,It should be pointed out that there is something called Article 39 in the Ethiopian Constitution that gives every region the right to secede from Ethiopia and form their own government.When the people of the Ogaden were allowed to vote,84% of the voters wanted to be govern by the ONLF,but what seen as a surprising turn, turned out not to be.

Somafiia,the lack of unity has to do with people having a hard time accepting what the ONLF stands for and the region being named after a tribe.For most non-ogaadeens people in ogaden, life under the Ethiopian regime is more acceptable than to fight.[/quote]

I don’t think any-one will take a “constitution” written by despots such as Meles Zenawi serious. The fact remains that if the man can rig election right in front of the international observers, then he is fully capable to rig something obscure like the Ogaden vote! Your presumptions are very naïve and innocent!

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:38 am
by Somafiia
I don’t think any-one will take a “constitution” written by despots such as Meles Zenawi serious. The fact remains that if the man can rig election right in front of the international observers, then he is fully capable to rig something obscure like the Ogaden vote! Your presumptions are very naïve and innocent![/quote]

True. Ethiopia = Volcano waiting to erupt.

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:16 am
by DANGIRL
[quote="Twisted_Logic"]

I don’t think any-one will take a “constitution” written by despots such as Meles Zenawi serious. The fact remains that if the man can rig election right in front of the international observers, then he is fully capable to rig something obscure like the Ogaden vote! Your presumptions are very naïve and innocent![/quote]

well,It seems rather naive and simplistic of you to assume that the occupiers will somehow allow central government to bring international issues on whats happening in the ogaden when they themselves dont want that being known.

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:33 am
by TaaDow
[quote="Somafiia"]I also think it has alot to do with lack of unity. Why is it that Eritrea a group of Ethnic groups can liberate their land and Somali galbeed cant?...I mean we beat Eritrea in population by couple million. Trust me all odds were also against Eritrea and its struggle for self determination.[/quote]

Eritrea just took advantage of when mengistu was booted out in 91 and they supported the EPRDF in getting rid of him, by which they gave Eritrea an opportunity to create its own nation. they just simply took advantage of the opportunity that came to them.

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:11 am
by The_Emperior5
we where struglleling since 1884 when the english came to my country

then in 1962 markaanu somalia isku darranay

then dawladii kacaanka

Re: Is Somaliland receiving more attention then the ogaden Strug

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:21 am
by The_Emperior5
[quote="Advocatar"][quote="Samatr"]ONLF can free Zone 5 only when it does one of two things, unite all Somalis in the Zone 5 Somali region. The second thing it should do is go for the head of Meles Zenawi and all the people against the cause of secession from Ethiopia, assassinating Zenawi and his cronies ; if you want to kill a snake you don't cut its tail, you cut its head off.[/quote]

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thats what i was sayng all the time in somalilife

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