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1. What is the real number of Ethiopian troops on the ground in Mogdishu?
2. How come hawiyes are not able to defeat them?
3. Did they say, at any point in time, when they plan to leave Somalia if they ever will?

1. What is the real number of Ethiopian troops on the ground in Mogdishu? (56000)
2. How come hawiyes are not able to defeat them?hawiye you mean cayr?
3. Did they say, at any point in time, when they plan to leave Somalia if they ever will? no

[quote="QansaGabeyle"]1. What is the real number of Ethiopian troops on the ground in Mogdishu?
2. How come hawiyes are not able to defeat them?
3. Did they say, at any point in time, when they plan to leave Somalia if they ever will?[/quote]

Nice question ya munafiq, i will try my best to answer them:

1 100/200 thousand troops.
2 only HG(mostly cayr and saleeban) and the subclan of sh.Sharif sh. Axmed are doing the jihad. The rest are warlords and supporters of warlords.
3 how will they leave somalia when their plan is: to conquer somalia.to establish ethiopian community in somalia.

[quote="QansaGabeyle"]1. What is the real number of Ethiopian troops on the ground in Mogdishu?
2. How come hawiyes are not able to defeat them?
3. Did they say, at any point in time, when they plan to leave Somalia if they ever will?[/quote]

1 i would estimate around 45thousand troops
2 because hawiyeare fighting against themselves. and only al shabaab is fighting against the ethopians.

3 they will leave somalia, but not on there own accord they will be kick out inshallah

I thought if Hawiye kicked out USA they could defeat Habashas
but i was wrong



btw i like the Ethiopians to stay soon we will have BEER BARS in Somalia who will serve Harari wine

1

´The Ethiopian government has closely guarded details of the number of troops deployed
in Somalia and statistics of casualties incurred in the fighting, but credible sources told
Human Rights Watch that by early 2007 Ethiopia may have had as many as 30,000
troops in Somalia.87 In 2006 Ethiopian military convoys carrying troops and military
materiel came into Somalia regularly from Ethiopia, passing through Beletweyne town,
in Somalia’s Hiran region.88 Ethiopian forces deployed in Mogadishu in early 2007
included infantry and air support.´

HRW report: Mogadishu shell-shocked. http://www.pencanada.ca/media/SomaliaHu ... Report.pdf

The answer to question 2 lies in the fact that Hawiye opportunists and traitors have turned the whole issue into something else. For example, the Hawiye religious pretenders turn it into Islamic struggle...the Hawiye warlords and traitors turn it into ''fight between Ethiopians and Al-Itixiad''...and others again turn it into ''Subclan vs Ethiopians''

While the reality on the ground is:

1: The Somali group that loses big time by this occupation: Hawiye in general
2: Somalia loses too, since today its Hawiye, tommorow other group.

So, since Ethiopia is an arch-enemy of Somalia...and since the centre of the occupation is within Hawiye regions it is natural to translate this struggle into: Hawiye vs Ethiopian occupation..........only when all Hawiye subclans join the struggle can we expect from other Somali groups to do the same...so that the struggle can be translated into Somalis vs Abbysinians. In the meantime, the only thing we can expect is moral support from other Somali groups..nothing else.

Another thing which does not exist at this particular time: Strong, credible leadership............but the longer the struggle drags on, the urgent the need for this strong, credible leadership will be...and the higher the chance that someone with these features will step to the front.

The answer to question 3 is linked to question 2. If Hawiye loses, then Ethiopians will stay as long as they want, and even go for more.

But if Hawiye subclans join the resistance en masse, and Ethiopians get weakened, then other Somali groups will join too....which basically means: The defeat of Ethiopian occupation and even more consequences for Ethiopian-Tigre regime itself.

[quote="QansaGabeyle"]1. What is the real number of Ethiopian troops on the ground in Mogdishu?
2. How come hawiyes are not able to defeat them?
3. Did they say, at any point in time, when they plan to leave Somalia if they ever will?[/quote]


QansaGabeyle ...sxb why is everyone mentioning the name hawiye hawiye ..ethiopia waxay haysataa the whole of somalia.and it's up to all somalis sida ay iskaga xoreen lahaayeen..



mr.wise... sxb ceyrka aad sheegayso xagee joogaan waxayba noqdeen mid guuriceel u qaxa iyo mid nairobi u qaxo walaahi wax xamar ka jooga ayaaba jirin.
raga dagaalka ku jira waa al-shabaab ragaasna qabiil ma lahan waxayna ka kooban yihiin every qabiil...

I hear Nigerian troops are on the way. Bad news for the ppl of xamar. The Maxaakiim need to change their tactics and lay low for a year or two. Right now, they are killing more civillians than actual troops anyway.

30K habeshi
Only Ceyr Saleebaan Duduble and Waceysle are fightng.
When america says go.... Ethiopia will leave.

xPLOSIVE,

they been saying Burundi was sending troops, none of that sh1t is happening

the Ugandans will be gone soon, they can't take that ish anymore

xabasha would love to leave, but Meles doesn't give two sh1ts about his soldiers so they are left to die and be in fear

the day the money halts from the Bush admin, is the day they are out

but then there is a part of me that says if Somalis make peace with each other now, they will leave as there would be no "terrorist" threat

but............ there goes the ball

hawiyes cant shoot, they lack aiming skills they shoot more on buildings and fellow somalis then shooting on ethiopians.

Cabdallah,

When they come to Majeertenia, they won't need to shoot because like the Hutus in Rwanda, they will use knives and machetes on the Majeerten.

Bullets are too costly.

Abdiwahab:
"they will use knives and machetes on the Majeerten.




loughing walaahi

Abdiwahaab are Hutus Your Role Models.

CiiseGure,

Warya, there are 20 Hutu Interhamwe Consultants, the same dudes who brought you, "Hotel Rwanda" that are going to be flown in from Zaire to provide consulting services to the Hawiye Squads.

BABYGAL,

U call us Hutus so why not call our Hutu brothers to come help.


Hutus = Hawiye's Fellow Brothers and Sisters

Long Live the Hutu-Hawiye Alliance