The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

[+chilli]

Walalayaal, come on!, you guys are being absolutely….

Gedo you still persisting with your ‘heroic’ notion, lets use that assumption of yours. (baby I'll cheat on you anyway, why not make it halal.)

Men are adulteries (this is your understanding), in most culture the door is open for them to do as they please, they cheat and disrespect women, modern day oppression. But there is a competition because research is showing that women are just as sexual active, there is trend of multiple partners.
Look at the west, prime example. What do you think? Does your logic still stand?. Walal it’s a social disease that will not burn out by feeding it fuel.

The Qur’an teaches modesty, fidelity and discipline, and here you are saying it advocates the opposite, if one is not enough, 2 if not 3 then finally 4!...
All am saying is put it in context, and read the Qur’an.

What is the barakah and khar it has? Have you seen the devastating issues it courses in our families?
I have nothing against polygamy; You men just need to stop mistreating it
and need to put it into context!

Let the Qur’an speak:

Surah light, please go read this surah if you think its ok for men to follow
their desire and polygamy can somehow accommodate that.

24:32 ‘Marry those among you who are single, or the virtuous ones among
yourselves, male or female: if they are in poverty, Allah will give them
means out of His grace: for Allah encompasseth all, and he knoweth all
things’.


51:49 ‘And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive
instruction.’
Wamin kulli shay-in khalaqna zawjaynilaAAallakum tathakkaroona

31:10 ‘He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on
the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He
scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky,
and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs’

What is the condition that allows multi, ‘just’ , one has to be ‘just’, this is impossible if you think about it, emotionally, financially, physically?, stated through divine revelation as an impossibility, 4:129 ‘Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire’



What is the injunction?
Marry one and fulfil half of your diin.
Gamdiid, honest question, do you actually think that Gedo is making any sense? Answer this outside you male ego…

[DANGIRL]

The verses in the koran that are actually talk about or support polygamy have actually been taken out of context by religious freaks who seek to use this ruling to their own advantage. Anyone muslim who has a any basic knowledge of the social conditions of seventh century would realise that while polygamy might have served a purpose back then, it has become irrelevant in this day and age.

[Gedo_Boy]

+chili,

I don't think the 'pairs' refers to monogamy, otherwise it would contradict the permission to marry more than one. The 'pairs' simply refers to the concept of complements in everything in this world. Plus/Minus, Add/Subtract, Multiply/Divide, Proton/Electron, Macro/Micro, Male/Female etc. A female complements a male, but that doesn't imply 1:1, just that women were made for men & vice versa.

As for the promiscuity of women, this results from the breakdown in social values and morals, and the men are cheating as well and there is no firm commitment to fidelity anyways. There's a hadith that says: "Be chaste so that your women may be chaste". Perhaps, this implies that sexual promiscuity of women is preceded by a male's promiscuity ( a causal relation).

So I don't understand what you meant by bringing up the female promiscuity. Are you saying that a man marrying more than 1 woman can be justification for a woman to cheat? It's like an apples 'n oranges comparison b/c you're bringing up a society where promiscuity is rife and you're using it to try to discredit a system (polygamy) which has the potential to reduce illicit promiscuity.

Also, you haven't addressed the different requirements in a relationship between a man and a woman. The needs in a relationship for a man are more base or physical whereas the needs for a woman are physical to a lesser extent, and more emotional & psychological.

If a man has 2 wives and has relations with both wives, he is not guilty of infidelity or immodesty.

Now everything I said before was dealing in the abstract. Now let's deal real world and address the question you may have inadvertently (or conveniently ) skipped.

What do you do in the case where females outnumber males?

I can sense what your answer is implicitly by your position. You care to not address it. Your answer is: "It stinks for the women who won't be able to find a man (& I hope I'm not one of them)". Whether you admit it or not that's probably your answer. At best, it's a: "I don't want to deal with it"

So you are not addressing a real societal problem, you are ignoring it. This is actually worse for women, simple supply & demand theory states that when there's a surplus of a product it reduces the cost of the product. What does that mean? It means that there will be a lot more of "the other woman" around. What will they do? Either they will remain lonely til old age sadly, or they will resort to illicit activity to secure the comfort of a man. No woman ever aspires to be the other woman-the woman whom a husband cheats with-it just happens and often it happens b/c that women doesn't have a man of her own. Polygamy would actually reduce 'the other women' cases significantly because it will bring her into the fold of a xalaal relationship.

One of the main reasons zina is such a kabaair is that it has the potential to break down the fabric of a society by disruption of lineage: parental ambiguity. Polygamy erases that problem. There's actually a lot of violence due to 1 women, 2 men love triangles.

Those are some of the reasons why your hostile position is so dangerous.....you are closing the outlet which would absorb the surplus of women. If for every married women there's a single women out there, what happens to that single woman? Is she condemned to a life of being single and not having the physical, emotional and psychological comforts of a relationship?

A few more points:

1. As for the baraka or khayr in it, perhaps there are several members on this forum who are brothers/sisters from a different mother. Let's ask them if their family relationships are a disaster? I will create a thread and ask them. I know my maternal grandfather had several wives and MANY children and 1 thing I like is how many abtis/habaryars I have.

2. When you say: 'I have nothing against polygamy; You men just need to stop mistreating it
and need to put it into context!'.....what exactly does that mean? I want to know what your guidelines are, exactly when is polygamy sanctioned in +chili's world?



DANGIRL,

That's just nonsense! The Quran doesn't have an expiration date.
Do you wear hijab? If so, take it off b/c it's a remnant of the 7th century.

[Gedo_Boy]

+chili,

By the way, when I was a kid (pre-puberty), my dad would joke with me about getting married again and I would get so mad and tell him that I'd never speak to him again and would want nothing to do with him. When I got older, I told him that I would have loved to have younger brothers and sisters that I could help raise.


Basically, there was a big difference between my reaction as a child and then as a young adult. My reaction as a kid was identical to a woman's reaction.

Why do I bring this up? Because this proves to me the Somali mah mah: "Naag waa cunug cagta ka weynaatay"



................Just kidding that was a joke

[DANGIRL]

Polygamy should be prohibited by all muslims since it served no purpose in todays world.

[TheBigBosS]

[quote="DANGIRL"]Polygamy should be completely prohibited by all muslims since it served no purpose in todays world.[/quote]
u cant prohibit what Allah made halal u sickminded biitch!!

[TheBigBosS]

somali men should go 2 america and marry multyple women for the skae of Allah, cuz there 8 million single lonely women there

[DANGIRL]

You want to feel all macho by calling me b.itch, fine,have it your way,but you should look into the koran more often because it does indeed discourage polygamy.However, under certain circumstances it is allowed,but having more than one wife is just not worth it in my opinion.You should just be content with just one woman.

[TheBigBosS]

[quote="DANGIRL"]You want to feel all macho by calling me b.itch, fine,have it your way,but you should look into the koran more often because it does indeed discourage polygamy except under certain circumstances.[/quote]

No it doesnt, stop crying! u expect us 2 believe a selfish dhoocil who has lil islamic knowledge over the scholars? name 1 scholar in the past or present or any hadith/verze that gives u right

no wonder there more women then men in hell

like it or not polygamy is blessed

[DANGIRL]

Nor do you have any knowledge yourself.As I have said earlier,many islamic scholars do favor monogamy over polygamy.They agree that polygamy, although still allowed to be practice by nutcases like yourself, is on the wane, a thing of the past.

[TheBigBosS]

islam is for the past and future, it can never be changed again come with evidence wich scholars even in jannah men wil have multyple wives, u have 2 learn 2 accept polygamy:up:

the imams of mekka sudais and shuraim have multyple wives, indeed nutcases

[biko]

TheBigBosS

hey, leave the ogaaden girl alone you twat!

[TheBigBosS]

^biko if shes ogaden maxaa iga galay?

this thread is about polygamy

[TheBigBosS]

[biko]

wecel yahow ka hadh gabadha..