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The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby TheBigBosS » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:03 am

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby DANGIRL » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:13 am

Being a muslim does not justify polygamy.Research properly before getting all emotional about it khanisyahow. And for those two imaams Sudais and Shuraim have multiple wives because they are physically, morally and economically capable of having multiple wives ,but still the Islamic laws states that its not mandatory for one to practice such thing.The koran clearly hints to the essentially monogamistic nature of the male and female is more favorable than polygamistic. I guess you're too dumb to figure that out.

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby FAH1223 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:34 am

[quote="DANGIRL"]t has become irrelevant in this day and age.[/quote]

well its not just the 7th century, anytime there are major wars, women and children do not have the husband/father figures as they are the ones fighting....

it hasn't become irrelevant, in fact, it is a halal solution to man. Allah SWT knows man and his tendencies as he has created them.

and you are right scholars prefer monogamy over polygamy, because we all know men cannot treat them equally and Allah SWT already warns that in the Qur'an, but it is permissible and should be done with a just intent in the beginning and just effort throughout

but look at society, men fukk around and cheat with no regard for their wife. If he has two wives and has relations with both, he isn't an adulterer and he isn't a cheat.

Now you are a girl and you cannot fathom sharing your husband, and I understand that 100%. I'd feel uneasy if my pops had another wife, I really would.

But you cannot just throw away something that Allah SWT has made permissible, if you do that, you may as well throw away the rest of the Qur'an. Wouldn't you rather your husband come up to you and ask your permission to marry a 2nd wife instead of him going behind your back and cheating? Which one would hurt you more abaayo?

you know in the days leading up to Youm Al Qiyamah, so many men will die in battles/wars/ect/ect and women will increase

it would be worse than the 7th century or any other time with women approaching the ratio of 50:1 in terms of the population

whats your solution then? so many people not marrying? lesbian/faggotry?

polygamy would be the only solution and it would be the most just solution for women in that period of time

the reason it seems such a foreign idea today is because of the globalization of the Western world and its customs throughout the globe. People have committed adultery throughout times obv, but there is a culture that glorifies it and premarital sex like it is nothing.

Monogamy is useless if the man will cheat and go behind the back of his wife, the relationship is over when that happens and the man is following shaydaan. Atleast with the process of polygamy and the rules of marriage laid out in the Qur'an, you have the halal solution of divorce if you don't want to share your husband or you have the halal solution of letting your husband have a second wife with your knowledge

Nabi Muhammad Sallahu Alayhi Wasallam used to pray in one of his prayers to Allah SWT by saying in Arabic "Allah humma innaka taalamu be anni aadiloo bima astatee', wa lakinnee la aadiloo bima la astatee'," or "Dear Allah, you are well aware that I try to be just with all I can, but I can't be just with what I can't."

Something Allah SWT made permissible is done in his wisdom, so better believe that calamity will strike and things that may seem "old and backwards" to you may just become what the world needs during its last hours..

Overall I agree with you polygamy isn't REQUIRED in Islam. It is something made to combat social or human ills. And The Qur'an makes it clear that no human will ever be able to treat them all justly, and the du'a from our noble Nabi Sallahu Alayhi Wasallam also proves that Smile

and my post I try to put it in today's content where sex sells

marriage should be more than about sex...

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby TheBigBosS » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:40 am

[quote="DANGIRL"]Being a muslim does not justify polygamy.Research properly before getting all emotional about it khanisyahow. And for those two imaams Sudais and Shuraim have multiple wives because they are physically, morally and economically capable of having multiple wives ,but still the Islamic laws states that its not mandatory for one to practice such thing.The koran clearly hints to the essentially monogamistic nature of the male and female is more favorable than polygamistic. I guess you're too dumb to figure that out.[/quote]

i'm are physically, morally and economically capable of having multiple wives, ur evil nayaa stop declaring halal practises haram down
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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

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[quote="TheBigBosS"][quote="DANGIRL"]Being a muslim does not justify polygamy.Research properly before getting all emotional about it khanisyahow. And for those two imaams Sudais and Shuraim have multiple wives because they are physically, morally and economically capable of having multiple wives ,but still the Islamic laws states that its not mandatory for one to practice such thing.The koran clearly hints to the essentially monogamistic nature of the male and female is more favorable than polygamistic. I guess you're too dumb to figure that out.[/quote]

i'm physically, morally and economically capable of having multiple wives, ur evil nayaa stop declaring halal practises haram down[/quote]

her words could have been used better

she isn't saying it is haram, the Qur'an does not encourage polygamy; it simply permits it.

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby TheBigBosS » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:43 am

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="TheBigBosS"][quote="DANGIRL"]Being a muslim does not justify polygamy.Research properly before getting all emotional about it khanisyahow. And for those two imaams Sudais and Shuraim have multiple wives because they are physically, morally and economically capable of having multiple wives ,but still the Islamic laws states that its not mandatory for one to practice such thing.The koran clearly hints to the essentially monogamistic nature of the male and female is more favorable than polygamistic. I guess you're too dumb to figure that out.[/quote]

i'm physically, morally and economically capable of having multiple wives, ur evil nayaa stop declaring halal practises haram down[/quote]

her words could have been used better

she isn't saying it is haram, the Qur'an does not encourage polygamy; it simply permits it.[/quote]

she clearly said it most be completely prohibited!! and portraits it as an evil act down

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby FAH1223 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:56 am

[quote="TheBigBosS"]

she clearly said it most be completely prohibited!! and portraits it as an evil act down[/quote]

thats why I said her words could have been better

I don't think thats her intent, but you have to see it from her perspective too (she is a woman) and they also have a say in all of this too

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby DANGIRL » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:05 am

Fah,I agree with your view points not entirely though, but such practice should be done under the right circumstances.I have mention this earlier,monogamistic nature of a male and female is more favorable than polygamistic,and should be kept that way.And yes i did state polygamy should be probhibted because it has no use in today society.I don’t see how it would help stop men from cheating or solve wars or famines.. * ..As you stated,during the time of the Prophet,muslims were faced with wars which led to women outnumbering men and left many women widows and many children fatherless.Therefore, it was understandable,then for men to marry more than one wife.Laakin, how does this situation apply in todays world??We have no wars that would threaten the lives of our men as the early muslims were faced with.Until we are faced with such moral dilemma as did the early muslims,we should not practice polygamy.
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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby IZNOGOOD » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:32 am

to many single/widows/ divorced mothers and not enough men

its time for serious polygamy Laughing

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby kambuli » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:45 am

The Aaya says " Wa in khiftum, alaa tacdilu fawaaxidata"

Allaah SWT ayaa ku leh, haddii aad ka baqdaan inaad u caddaalad samayn kari weydaan, mid baan idinku ogahay"

Do Somali men do Caddaala? Ma waxaa jira nin Somaaliyeed oo yidhaahda;

Xaaskayga Caasha waxaan usoo iibiyey Laba Bakeeri oo cad cad,
Xaaskeyga Faadumana waxaan usoo iibiyey laba bakeeri oo cadcad?

Maya, never happened before and it won't happen now...

The other important argument here is why Somali men all love this Aaya that allows them to marry more than one wive and not love all the other Aayas that talk about their responsibility as a husband and a father? Why don't they let their wives stay home and be the sole bread winners? Why they don't help with house chores? Are they better than our Prophet CSWS? Who washed the clothes for his wives?

Give me a break and stop the double standard waaryaadha...

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby FAH1223 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:46 am

[quote="DANGIRL"]Fah,I agree with your view points not entirely though, but such practice should be done under the right circumstances.I have mention this earlier,monogamistic nature of a male and female is more favorable than polygamistic,and should be kept that way.And yes i did state polygamy should be probhibted because it has no use in today society.I don’t see how it would help stop men from cheating or solve wars or famines.. * ..As you stated,during the time of the Prophet,muslims were faced with wars which led to women outnumbering men and left many women widows and many children fatherless.Therefore, it was understandable,then for men to marry more than one wife.Laakin, how does this situation apply in todays world??We have no wars that would threaten the lives of our men as the early muslims were faced with.Until we are faced with such moral dilemma as did the early muslims,we should not practice polygamy.[/quote]

i agree for most part, but saying it should be prohibited would close the doors for it in the future when Muslims are inflicted w/ those plights

the Qur'an is here till the day of judgment and what is permissible stays for a reason

Allah SWT already advises to marry one, but there is wisdom in why polygamy remains open

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby FAH1223 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:47 am

[quote="kambuli"]

Maya, never happened before and it won't happen now...

The other important argument here is why Somali men all love this Aaya that allows them to marry more than one wive and not love all the other Aayas that talk about their responsibility as a husband and a father? Why don't they let their wives stay home and be the sole bread winners? Why they don't help with house chores? Are they better than our Prophet CSWS? Who washed the clothes for his wives?

Give me a break and stop the double standard waaryaadha...[/quote]

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby DANGIRL » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:47 am

Fah;permissible, but discouraged.

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Re: The Plight of Garoobs...The Evil of Women

Postby TheBigBosS » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:55 am

its encouraged cuz there more women the men


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