When Darood and Hawiye sign peace treaty.

[Phd in naago kudis]

[quote="kadarre"]Its better for all Somali clans to unite.We dont want one specific clan in an refugee camp like Utanga ever again.[/quote]

wtf that is to harsh

say no more to utanga

[Luq_Ganane]

Hawiye iyo Daarood wuu kal dhamaaday.

HG-Abgal will never reconcile

MJ-MR will never reconcile

OG-MJ will never reconcile except if its against us.

Harti has broken up.

Notice how I only mentioned Hiraab of Hawiye because thats the only real Hawiye there, and the rest could go in and out of the confederation when they wish.

Laakin Hawiye in general are Dawladidid no matter if its an Cayr (Cabdiqassin) or a Majerten (AY). Now Mohamed Dheere is making it a mission to force his will on them..Who knows how it'll turn out.

[GENERAL_SNM]

Liqaaye is Silanyo's nephew he works for the kulmiye party and his position on anything somaliland represents the minority HJ who are hoping for a silanyo victory.The mainstream position of most isaaq's not just HJ is one of waste of time chasing this indenpendence goal that never seems to get any closer.The only reason that this position of independence is excepted by the majority is their is no alternative.Somalia does not exist and until it gets it act together somaliland will be drifting towards independence whether we agree with it or not.

[The_Patriot]

[quote]Hawiye iyo Daarood wuu kal dhamaaday.[/quote]
ogadeen kumajiro hawsshas


[quote]OG-MJ will never reconcile except if its against us.[/quote]

We are not enemies with MJ just go to Bosaso oR puntland our reconcialiation has nothing to do with you.

As for kismayu it depends upon how you conduct your self during this occupation of somalia.

[Luq_Ganane]

Patriot,

Who was with Koojar in June? I'm not being sarcastic I just wanna know.

[The_Patriot]

kojaar is a macenary who fought at the ethi/Eri war in Badme who always worked for C/yusuf.

He was responsible for also overthrowing Cade muse in garowe.

Bilka nololedh buu c/yusuf udhonta.
So he is Ogaden by blood nothing else.

[Luq_Ganane]

Patriot do you have family in Kismaayo?

[The_Patriot]

Do i have family in kismayu?
Yes.
But they never support a TFG that ensures that they get 1 posts in out of the 21 kismayuposts while MR can give them 1/2 of the 21.

[Luq_Ganane]

Patriot were they ever bothered during the Barre admin, and today?

[The_Patriot]

Bothered dude they know kismayu changes hand everytime.

so they just go along with their stuff.

though they never liked Hirrale coz of the Cayr influence.

the other thing is every leader in that place from Morgan had to sought of give them some share.
Bare did it so as the rest like Tanoo.

[Luq_Ganane]

^^

But I mean there wasn't a case where people were driven out of their homes and shid like that. The only thing that irks me is when MX in Kismaayo is compared with HG. Besides do you know the JVA was all Cayr except for 2 positions which were held by Seraar/Gobaale? The only reason for the Isbahaysi was so we can help them capture Shabeelada hoose from Caato and put Indacadde, and they got us through Hawiye lands. If Cayr really had influence in Kismaayo, why don't they live there in large numbers today? You won't find one Cayr in Kismaayo sxb, lool.

[The_Patriot]

the differnce btw MR and Cayr was
MR Kismayu buu degan kadigtey while Cayr almost came as far as jilib like settlers.
settling on the farmlands and also burning Dobley.

the only time og were massacred in Kismayu wa during Morgans Era after that every invader took an example from Morgan by appeasing the locals.

[Luq_Ganane]

^^

Are they still in Jilib? I thought those were Sheikhaals Taano ran out of there awhile back.

[The_Patriot]

dude J/hoose is mostly ogaden degaan with some minorities those shekhal from jilib moved from hosungoow.

[Luq_Ganane]

So who were the ones that were chased out from Jilib by guutada sedexaad awhile back?