When Darood and Hawiye sign peace treaty.

[The_Patriot]

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]So who were the ones that were chased out from Jilib by guutada sedexaad awhile back?[/quote]
most probably Galjecel.

[GENERAL_SNM]

What this marexaan ogadeen conspiracy.Lug you rope them of the only city they had and to add insult to injury,you want to debate withem about it.Stop taking advantage of the dumb cahgdeers lord knows they have bigger problems.the term "more then you can chew comes to mind" In ethoipia they have a new delicacie its called fattend freshly killed cahgdeers.

[Luq_Ganane]

Gen SNM,

Absame an Marexaan are brothers and have been living in the South together for centuries. Don't be fooled by the cuqdadqabe's Dangirk, Gudhad, NY as the Absames in Jubbaland are nothing like them. Very soon a regional admin will be made that will divide seats between all of us equally.

[Morrison]

These Daroodcula homeless vampires keep hating somalillanD,
daroodcula vampires EHE Mogadisho belongs to Hawiye and hargiesa belongs to somaliland,
build YOUR DAROODCULA ISKUSHUBAN CAPITAL.
PHOCKING HOMELESS DAROODCULA VAMPIRES

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]Hawiye iyo Daarood wuu kal dhamaaday.

HG-Abgal will never reconcile

MJ-MR will never reconcile

OG-MJ will never reconcile except if its against us.

Harti has broken up.

Notice how I only mentioned Hiraab of Hawiye because thats the only real Hawiye there, and the rest could go in and out of the confederation when they wish.

Laakin Hawiye in general are Dawladidid no matter if its an Cayr (Cabdiqassin) or a Majerten (AY). Now Mohamed Dheere is making it a mission to force his will on them..Who knows how it'll turn out.[/quote]

Why do you always use Hawiye as if it is a single unified harmonious body?

[Samatr]

[quote="Oxidant"]The end of Somaliland.
I know this is in far away, But imagine side by side marching towards Somaliland with the Somalia flag raised up high. How fast would we conquer it.?

Troops in the middle of Hargeysa, raising up the Somalia flag. How awesome is going to be when we see those dammed faces of supporters of Somaliland heads hanged in shame. Their leaders facing the same fate as Saddam Hussein did, even worst.

OOOOOOOOH
How I long for that day.

VIVA GREATER SOMALIA.[/quote]


Somalia has been set back 20 years, it has not seen peace. If what you say happens, I can assure you even the pro Somaliweyn Isaaq will join their brothers in Somaliland. We have had peace for a while and we enjoy it, don't think we will give up our lands and hard work that easily, no amount of ethiopians can help you secure something that does not belong to you. Your talking about controlling Hargeysa, you have to go through Burco to do that which won't happen anytime soon, this is not the 80's where the Somali government hired white Rhodesian mercenary pilots to bomb innocent civilians of Somaliland, sheekadu wey is bedashay saaxiib ninkii dhoof kuu yimi bey geeridu uu taalaa.
What kind of logic do you have, Somalia is in a state of chaos and your talking about destabilizing regions in Somalia which have had relative peace, and people wonder why Somalia is the way it is.

[Kramer]

Listen, we can't unite to mascare other Somalis in this modern times, at least Hawiye will not agree to take back Somaliland with force. There is no need for force, alot of other avenues and doors are open, you have to exhaust those first, and then may be business sanctions.

But its really very weak of Isaaqs to leave the whole Somalia for one tribe. Its like you give up very easily and said, we gonna be separate from Somalia --because a Darood dictator mascared us.
you don't give up! you fight back, and hang in there !

one mad man dictator that also attacked Hawiye and Majeerteen -also mascared you! you had your chances to take revenge in 90s, when we chase him from Mogadishu and he was in Gedo --now the only chance you have is to recollect and forgive and forget. In order for this to never happen again, get back to the circle, don't isolate your self from the rest of the crew, you know! run for president(as Somalia never had an Isaaq president)
You had 17yrs of peace--while the rest of Somalia is still in war, so in away you got back the years you lost.

[Shirib]

I think its 17 years over do.

[Samatr]

There will never be and Isaaq Somali president as long as Daarood and Hawiye are in politics, we both know very well that an Isaaq can never be president of Somalia because we will never be given that chance because of qabiil. Somalia politics consists of Daarood and Hawiye each not letting each other have power, why would any Isaaq person want to meddle with the formula which Somalia is found on which is Daarood v.s hawiye politics, all we can do is separate ourselves from the corrupt government and have our own militia which can protect our civilians, if God believes it just and we are recognized good and if not we should maintain our autonomy.
Let me remind you that Isaaq did want a united Somalia even after Siyad Bare AUN was ousted, but Ali Mahdi and Caydiid AUN both fought for power, Somaliland put its eggs out of the basket when this happened, one would have to be insane to join after witnessing such an event.
We did not get anything back and I don't think we are asking for anything, if the rest of Somalia is fucked up then it is up to the rest of Somalia to fix their own problems, I would like to see a peaceful Somalia but it won't happen unless Somalis from the warring regions oust their qabilist leaders and let there elders mediate and establish peace. Even we Isaaq had our little bloody wars against each other but our elders mediated and stopped the wars and now we have peace, I see no reason why the warring regions and peoples of Somalia can't do the same.

[gurey25]

If the SNM could take on 70% of the SNA,
+ the dhulo millita+the gadabursi millitia +the WSLF(by then only Ogaden)

and do well...

what makes you think any somali force today is of any threat?


If by some miracle there is concerted effort againt somaliland
the only ones that will suffer will be puntland, becuase the entire war will be fought on thier soil.

[Oxidant]

Numerous supporters of Somaliland think that Hawiye will forever be on your side. When Ethiopian troops let Somalia, they will be a massive battle between Hawiye and Darood. No one will triumph, both sides will retreat to their clans area and realizes that this bloodshed will get one where, therefore resulting in a peace treaty. It will take awhile till there is full peace. But when there is, God help Somaliland.

[Kramer]

[quote="Oxidant"]Numerous supporters of Somaliland think that Hawiye will forever be on your side. When Ethiopian troops let Somalia, they will be a massive battle between Hawiye and Darood. No one will triumph, both sides will retreat to their clans area and realizes that this bloodshed will get one where, therefore resulting in a peace treaty. It will take awhile till there is full peace. But when there is, God help Somaliland.[/quote]

Haye! where have you been all this years, Nostradamus!