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[quote="new-york23"][quote="we might if every ogaden man receives 4 sade wifes,thats 32 million sade women can you come up with that?

am thinking of calling it AGA LAND.[/quote]


No can do saaxib. There would be no more Marexaan girls for me markaas. How about quule and caano booro smoothies? There high in calcium and vitimin C, and will help you on the battlefield.

We the majority would like to keep the name the way it is,if not Loompaland would be preferable.

NY,

Good night!

[quote="Luq_Ganane"][quote="new-york23"][quote="we might if every ogaden man receives 4 sade wifes,thats 32 million sade women can you come up with that?

am thinking of calling it AGA LAND.[/quote]


No can do saaxib. There would be no more Marexaan girls for me markaas. How about quule and caano booro smoothies? There high in calcium and vitimin C, and will help you on the battlefield.[/quote]

cant take that deal,i have plenty of caano geel witch has vitiman a,b and c.but i might ry the quule heard it has the potenial to make you feel bullet proof.

[quote="DANGIRL"]We the majority would like to keep the name the way it is,if not Loompaland would be preferable.

NY,

Good night![/quote]

good night my ugaasad.

Are you sure you wanna name it Loompaland?


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[quote="DANGIRL"]We the majority would like to keep the name the way it is,if not Loompaland would be preferable.
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Are you sure you wanna name it Loompaland?


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It should be renamed to Xwaddledenia. Save us all this trouble.

Very important issue..the name Ogaden has been unproductive and serves the enemy rather our people.The name is assosiated with a single tribe,while the struggle is ment for every somali clan and somali people as whole,it touches for every and each of us,.no single clan can stand and liberate Western Somalia..

that power lies in those hyprid somali clans that are massed all over the vast area in the western somalia.

we should get rid of the name Ogaden and create a name that appeals to all the clans that live there,cause there are eager to parcipate the struggle,so welcome them by only changing only 6 letters.. How difficult is that????

First. Let's unite and claim back Somaliland, won't be that diffcult. Do to the fact Somalilanders are the weakest fighters. Then lets get back djibouti forcefully then NFD. Then comes Ogadenia.

This has been discussed to death in these pages for a long time. what is important is to get rid off the Ethiopians rule. That is what is important. I dont care what the land is called or who is majority in which tuulo. Somali people unite. educated people should not indulge in qabil bashing.

First of all. thanks for the inputs. Never mind those small interuptions caused by silly utterings of some members.

As for the inputs,

People have confused this topic for the widely discussed issue of the name for the region, which is ''Ogaden region''. Also people imply that the Ogaden group is the majority in the region, without having a solid evidence to support their claims. It looks like the name of the region is seen as a justification for claiming that the group is majority.

The Ogaden group may be a majority when compared to other Somali subclans individually, but when compared to all other Somali groups they are far from been a majority. You will find almost every Somali subclan living in Somali Galbeed, so in no way can one group be larger than all those multiple Somali subclans combined. Also, we are all familiar with the debate of Ogaden vs Ooga-degeen.

Anyways those are all irrelevant for the current debate, as the debate is about the ambition of some supporters of ONLF and ONLF members themselves of creating a state based on their ideology, which they have termed ''Ogadenia''.

It is not the name that concerns me or other Somaliweyn supporters, but the idea of having a next-door state based on the ideology of ONLF, which is basically one group-struggle for liberation of their regions from Ethiopian occupation.

Somalia, as said earlier, has sacrificed its whole existence in pursuing the liberation of those regions. So it becomes logical that Somali Galbeed should be integrated into Somalia proper.

This is a debate about possible scenario's for the post-liberation, since Somalis seem to forget post-plans always and like GB said, focus on the conflict to achieve something, while forgetting how to implement the post-conflict agenda.

somaliweyn post conflict era is easy coz most of the intertribal conflicts are incited by Xabashi.
once their is no divide and rule policy.

I think repsective tribes have xeer and do intermarry with each other hence they have common grounds to forge a lasting peace.

I'm a bit confused about what the ONLF is fighting for? Are they fight for autonomy or for independence? If the later, their cause is hopeless. No one will recognize Ogadenia or whatever it's called.

[quote="NoAngst."]I'm a bit confused about what the ONLF is fighting for? Are they fight for autonomy or for independence? If the later, their cause is hopeless. No one will recognize Ogadenia or whatever it's called.[/quote]

their is no difference btw them in the Xabashi world to get autonomy you would use alot of energy that will result to independence.

First, there is no place for people with defeatist attidute.

This debate concerns people who believe in the Somali future, people who are confident that we will eventually prevail over the Abbysinians.

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Secondly,

Patriot,

Post-conflict plan is needed, because we all know the Xabasha incite and fuel conflicts, but the real underlying causes for conflicts lie primarly within ourselves. Look at Somalia.

ONLF should become an example to Somali groups in showing the road to independence, but they should not assume a threatening ideology in the sense of: ''a clan-based nation-state'' next door to Somalia proper.