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First lets separate two things: ONLF struggle against Ethiopian occupation, and the notion of Ogadenia.

ONLF struggle is legitimate in the sense of fighting an oppressive Ethiopian occupation. In this they have my respect, and moral support. Also, the strategy of first staring with the own group and lands, instead of the ''WSLF'' strategy is the right one considering the post-1991 environment Somalis are in. Somali groups in Somali Galbeed should join the struggle, since they are no better of under the half a century Ethiopian occupation. In this they should start their own guerrilla organisations and target the enemy in their own regions.

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What strikes me these days is that some supporters of ONLF go further then the notion of: ''fighting in own regions and beginning with the own group'' and look into, the question: ''Whats next after the victory'''

In this they have come with the concept of Ogadenia, which means nationhood.

I fing this disturbing since it goes further then the concept of ''Somaliland'' in that it monopolizes the whole region, and names it after a group. Eventhough ''Somaliland'' is dominated by one group, they are still fair to call it ''Somali'' to hide the dominance ...but whats up with the ''Ogadenia'' concept lol.

Somalia has in its 30 years of existance preoccupied itself with the policy of liberating Somali lands under occupation, in this we have sacrificed time, energy, blood and money in two wars to liberate these lands. We could have invested these time, energy, blood and money into internal development, like building a sound economic base in Somalia, building and strengthening the state appartus and nation-state etc. Instead, we went into two wars, with the last one kinda contributing to the downfall of the once promising socialist regime.

Judging from how things are, Somalia will never allow particular groups to go ahead and masquerade their clan-ambitions into nation-ambitions. Hence, why ''Somaliland'' is opposed by most Somalis, and hence why most Somalis suspect the notion of ''Ogadenia''.

What are your views on this notion of ''Ogadeniya'' which means nationhood for Somali Galbeed region?

My personal Opinion i fully support the ONLF struggle against the Tigree and root for them to kill as many as they can. If they win the struggle reality is Somali Galbeed will fall into another civil war and it will be split and that is reality.

i dont support the onlf. they blindly target other somalis and have they thought about their goal i mean they want to be free okey and than what do you think the int.worl would except this and ethios are true nationalists they will never allow this and teeda kaalee what about somalis who support somaliweyn and those who support ethiopia yes king- of-awdal is right it could end up in pieces and thats good for nobody. what makes me sick to the stomach is those who mix the somali war to the ethiopian one now they have problems in muqadisho now suddenly they support other rebel groups its funny how somalis can switch their mind.

I think the Ethiopian constitution says that if any province wants to seperate, they could do it

but when you have a regime like Meles, politics isn't working

the only way the ONLF will succeed is if they have majority of support from all Somalis in that area, and they don't

I support a freed Galbeed, but it has to come from all Somalis, not just one clan or a minimum of clans,

thats my $.02

[quote="FAH1223"]I think the Ethiopian constitution says that if any province wants to seperate, they could do it

but when you have a regime like Meles, politics isn't working

the only way the ONLF will succeed is if they have majority of support from all Somalis in that area, and they don't

I support a freed Galbeed, but it has to come from all Somalis, not just one clan or a minimum of clans,

thats my $.02[/quote]

so isnt it better if they lay their weapons and listen to their ppl? but a freed galbeed will never happen you will always have have those who dont want it those want it and those who support the republic of somalia and so on. the best thing to do is work with the goverment trough the community and ethiopia.somalis dont know how to lobby when we helped meles zenawi we could had stick with him that was a lost opportunity.

[quote="fagash_killer"][quote="FAH1223"]I think the Ethiopian constitution says that if any province wants to seperate, they could do it

but when you have a regime like Meles, politics isn't working

the only way the ONLF will succeed is if they have majority of support from all Somalis in that area, and they don't

I support a freed Galbeed, but it has to come from all Somalis, not just one clan or a minimum of clans,

thats my $.02[/quote]

so isnt it better if they lay their weapons and listen to their ppl? but a freed galbeed will never happen you will always have have those who dont want it those want it and those who support the republic of somalia and so on. the best thing to do is work with the goverment trough the community and ethiopia.somalis dont know how to lobby when we helped meles zenawi we could had stick with him that was a lost opportunity.[/quote]

YOU'RE right, thats maybe the best way

another hopeless case. Ogadenia is a fake and qabiilist name the real name should be Somali Galbeed.

what is there to debate?? ogadeen = qaxooti for life period

I support ONLF 100%. The only time I'll give what anybody else says a bit of respect is when they do the same amount of fighting as they, then their input should be achkowledged. Heck Galbeed is the second home of Marexan and even I don't have a problem with the name Ogadenia. I say if all the other groups that inhabit that region have a problem with the name, then they should start contributing and their suggestions will be noted.

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]I support ONLF 100%. The only time I'll give what anybody else says a bit of respect is when they do the same amount of fighting as they, then their input should be achkowledged. Heck Galbeed is the second home of Marexan and even I don't have a problem with the name Ogadenia. I say if all the other groups that inhabit that region have a problem with the name, then they should start contributing and their suggestions will be noted.[/quote]

there is your problem

all the other groups are not in any unity

fah did you read the link i provided?
it is all u need.

[quote="abucubeed"]what is there to debate?? ogadeen = qaxooti for life period[/quote]

the words of a wise man

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="Luq_Ganane"]I support ONLF 100%. The only time I'll give what anybody else says a bit of respect is when they do the same amount of fighting as they, then their input should be achkowledged. Heck Galbeed is the second home of Marexan and even I don't have a problem with the name Ogadenia. I say if all the other groups that inhabit that region have a problem with the name, then they should start contributing and their suggestions will be noted.[/quote]

there is your problem

all the other groups are not in any unity[/quote]



Somaaha!!!

I can understand people not supporting the ONLF because of qabil tensions. But lets at least draw the line at supporting Tigray against them, just like its wrong to use Tigray in Xamar.