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Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Luq_Ganane » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:28 pm

What are your plans for the country to get stability?
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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby FAH1223 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:32 pm

you should phrase it as

what should we do to get Xamar stable again

*the small skirmishes that happen under local watch should be dealt with local forces/law/mediation*

and i think........................

everyone needs to get their land back in xamar lol

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Starscream » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:36 pm

people just need to let MJ get their way, resistance is futile.

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Luq_Ganane » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:41 pm

Starscream,

Majerten are a top political, economical etc. clan no question about it. Look at Puntland. However the question people have been asking is can MJ unite, rally and convince people to form a nation? I think a lot of the greed Majerten have exhibited leads everyone to be suspicious of them. Look at the TFG for instance; AY is basically trying to tell everybody 'either get down or lay down'. Get down with the TFG or get pummeled by Tigray. How far is that gonna take the TFG sxb?

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby TheBigBosS » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:42 pm

get the ethiopians out and inforce the sharia law thats the only way we can live in peace

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Luq_Ganane » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:47 pm

[quote="TheBigBosS"]get the ethiopians out and inforce the sharia law thats the only way we can live in peace[/quote]


How can uncivilized Somalis who have been robbing, killing each other for 20 years establish Sharicah on a dime saaxib? Its not as easy as handing a Mooryan a cimmamad and a AK.

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby cabdallah252 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:48 pm

98% of the young men in somalia are jobless and addicted to khat...thats the real reason of the civil war

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Luq_Ganane » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:51 pm

[quote="cabdallah252"]98% of the young men in somalia are jobless and addicted to khat...thats the real reason of the civil war[/quote]


But some people think that those guys can enforce "Sharicah Law" all the sudden kawaran? lool...

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Postby TheBigBosS » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:51 pm

[quote="Luq_Ganane"][quote="TheBigBosS"]get the ethiopians out and inforce the sharia law thats the only way we can live in peace[/quote]


How can uncivilized Somalis who have been robbing, killing each other for 20 years establish Sharicah on a dime saaxib? Its not as easy as handing a Mooryan a cimmamad and a AK.[/quote]

whats the poiint of shir if u think somalis are uncivilized that cant establish anything? i believe there are godfearing somalis that are fighting for Allah and not for mooryaanimo and i hope they kick the ethiopian out and inforce the sharia

thats the only way sxb Allah says it in quraan

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Postby COSTA » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:52 pm

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The guy in my avatar for president

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby TheBigBosS » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:54 pm

[quote="Luq_Ganane"][quote="cabdallah252"]98% of the young men in somalia are jobless and addicted to khat...thats the real reason of the civil war[/quote]


But some people think that those guys can enforce "Sharicah Law" all the sudden kawaran? lool...[/quote]

man read the koran and hadiths! ur not doing it for the people but 2 please Allah, sharia is the only law Allah accepts

TFG is trying 2 inforce democratie so why not the sharia ?

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Luq_Ganane » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:57 pm

Big Boss,

Islam should be implemented in its purest form, or not implemented at all. Somalis cannot implement it at its purest form. I say get a Federal Democratic system and let people practice the Religion as induviduals. Once Somalis get used to nadaam, get dhaqan Somaliyeed back, etc. then think about Sharicah. However its important for that Democratic system to be transparant meaning nobody should be able to take advantage of power in secret.

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby FAH1223 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:58 pm

thing is, you need reliable scholars and jurists who dont give two shids about qabil

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Starscream » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:58 pm

Luq,

Good questions raised yaa akhi. MJ are 100% behind their leader AY and we're one of the most united clans in Somalia today. AY is not the most ideal leader, but he's the perfect clan leader in today's Somalia. We have an image problem that we can't just solve with a creative PR stunt, nor can we change our ways because that would make the nation even more suspicious.

We don't know where the TFG is going to take us, but it's better than nothing. We don't take the extremist Hawiye threats seriously, because they can't do jack to us at the end of the day, which feeds their frustration even more. The least we get out of it is booli qaran a la Cayr with Carta, but we're waiting and hoping for the total control of the south with the help of our Hawiye and Ethiopian allies. That's the grand prize and the only reason why MJ is in Xamar right now.

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Re: Koonfur Shir: Hawiye, OG, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby GENERAL_SNM » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:06 pm

Since isaaq are not invited to this debate.Can we take it that we are longer part of somalia and you support the independence of somaliland.

I think the presidency of somalia should be awarded to someone neutral to both Hawyie and Darod.Ogaden should be the next president.


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