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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Somalian_Boqor » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:35 pm

Sorry guys I missed the meeting "shir" lol goodness it's already at 14 pages. Let me add my two cents than..........................

We Somalians miss Siyad Barre because even thou things were great when he was around it sure was better than now just look at Mogadishu the beauty of Somalia.

Somalia needs once again an Iron Fist just that of Siyad Barre because we don't compermise.

This government has tried to compermise and failed It tried it with the war-lords the ICU and even with the qabils and it hasn't worked. One fake promise after another is all it has gotten.

You either follow or die!!!!!

^^^ Thats the Somali way. It has 98% chance of working lol.
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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Somalian_Boqor » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:37 pm

We need another god Dam!!! Dictatorship!!!!

The last one kept us together for 21 years and without that dictatorship we have beeing fighting and without a real government for close to 18 years.

I don't care from who but we need one and Abduallhi Yusuf isn't going to deliver Gedi is most likely to become a Dictator and I will be the first person to support him inshallah in 2009 when he gets elected as President or the term after that. The sooner the better!!!

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Twisted_Logic » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:40 pm

[quote="Somalian_Boqor"]We need another god Dam!!! Dictatorship!!!!

The last one kept us together for 21 years and without that dictatorship we have beeing fighting and without a real government for close to 18 years.

I don't care from who but we need one and Abduallhi Yusuf isn't going to deliver Gedi is most likely to become a Dictator and I am be the first person to support him inshallah in 2009 when he gets to be elected as President or the term after that. The sooner the better!!![/quote]

Looks like this Mudulood and MJ partnership will continue for years to come! :)

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Twisted_Logic » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:41 pm

[quote="Luq_Ganane"][quote="Voltage"]Someliweyn the fact of the matter is you were kindly dismissed, what are you doing still standing around Luq's shirt-tail?[/quote]


Voltage, could it be because Habar Gidir, Marexaan, Majerten and ABGAL were invited specifically and "Udujeen who" were not?


I invited Abgal specifically not "Muloduud" loooool.

Anyway no qabil bashing. Back to the issue at hand.[/quote]

whats the difference between Mudulood and Abgaal? Do you actually know that without Ujaydeen Abgaal cant make a move?

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Twisted_Logic » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:42 pm

[quote="Voltage"][quote="Twisted_Logic"][quote="Voltage"]You people are dense. Clearly Twisted is a murtad, my only question is why entertain his form of humour?

Twisted sxb I don't dislike you as a person, I think you are really a good kid but you need help and you know what I mean.[/quote]

From one psycho to another....let's have a toast![/quote]

But for different reasons is it not? However, I don't think you are psychotic, malleable is more appropriate if you know what I mean...[/quote]


I sure do! I am gona be a bit presumptious and assume that you my friend are a glass of water!

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Southerners Soo Gala......

Postby Luq_Ganane » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:44 pm

[quote="Somaliweyn"
As for Udejeen, we have nothing to gain from lawlessness and anarchy, and everything to gain from peace and restored Somalia. Also, when the name ''Mudulood'' is dropped there is nothing standing between us and HG.[/quote]


Couple of small modifications. First its not fitting for a HG to have any signifigant dealing with an Ujujeen. It wouldn't even be fitting for agoon or Cali Madaxweyne of Xawaadle to do so let alone HG. Also like as some other subclans have unfortunately 'gained something from lawlessness and anarchy' Ujujeen have not gained anything, not out of 'righteousness' but because they were powerless to do so, and you know that fully well. Also I think its great that you're representing Udujeen. When I'm in Somali circles I rep Marexaan, when I'm in Marexaan circles I rep Cali Xusayn etc...

That being said I could see how you as an Udujeen would cling to Muloduud or to Hawiye however know that you won't get any serious response from us speaking from that humble platform. Heck you won't get any response at at all, lool...

That being said, although Ujujeen was left out of the title of the thread because of lack of revelance, you're still more than welcome to bring contributions to the table as you have, lool....

*Af Libaax aka Somaliweyn will report to this thread imminently if he hasn't already done so, with a "retort" *

looooooooooooooooooooooool.
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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Voltage » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:46 pm

[quote="Twisted_Logic"][quote="Voltage"][quote="Twisted_Logic"][quote="Voltage"]You people are dense. Clearly Twisted is a murtad, my only question is why entertain his form of humour?

Twisted sxb I don't dislike you as a person, I think you are really a good kid but you need help and you know what I mean.[/quote]

From one psycho to another....let's have a toast![/quote]

But for different reasons is it not? However, I don't think you are psychotic, malleable is more appropriate if you know what I mean...[/quote]


I sure do! I am gona be a bit presumptious and assume that you my friend are a glass of water![/quote]


Cute. I know you do not lack in the comprehension department so I will excuse your replies as barriers to the truth.

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Southerners Soo Gala......

Postby Luq_Ganane » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:46 pm

[quote="Twisted_Logic"][quote="Luq_Ganane"][quote="Voltage"
whats the difference between Mudulood and Abgaal? Do you actually know that without Ujaydeen Abgaal cant make a move?[/quote]


How noble and gracious of you Twisted Logic..I'm moved looool....
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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Somalian_Boqor » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:47 pm

^^^Luq_Ganane take it easy on the guy goodness sake!!!

We are all Somali and if it's a Somali issue everyone has a right to speak and add their two cents.

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby PosH » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:07 pm

[quote="NoAngst."]


to institute Sharia Law it would have to be interpreted. Who has the authority to legislate specific set of Sharia Laws for Somalia? Furthermore, Sharia Law evolved over time to deal with the various issues facing muslims... which time period should be adopted as a model which should be ignored?[/quote]

Spot on.

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Alluring » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:21 pm

Another useless thread. People can not have a formal debate without laughter, useless points of views. If YOU are the future, the future seems frightful.

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Voltage » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:38 pm

[quote="PosH"][quote="NoAngst."]


to institute Sharia Law it would have to be interpreted. Who has the authority to legislate specific set of Sharia Laws for Somalia? Furthermore, Sharia Law evolved over time to deal with the various issues facing muslims... which time period should be adopted as a model which should be ignored?[/quote]

Spot on.[/quote]


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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby PosH » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:51 pm

[quote="Voltage"][quote="PosH"][quote="NoAngst."]


to institute Sharia Law it would have to be interpreted. Who has the authority to legislate specific set of Sharia Laws for Somalia? Furthermore, Sharia Law evolved over time to deal with the various issues facing muslims... which time period should be adopted as a model which should be ignored?[/quote]

Spot on.[/quote]


love, gaal raac ah[/quote]

Following me into two different threads, is this love? I'm sorry, kiddo, the feeling isn't mutual. Join the queue of all those I've rejected. ===>

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby TheBigBosS » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:17 am

[quote="PosH"][quote="NoAngst."]


to institute Sharia Law it would have to be interpreted. Who has the authority to legislate specific set of Sharia Laws for Somalia? Furthermore, Sharia Law evolved over time to deal with the various issues facing muslims... which time period should be adopted as a model which should be ignored?[/quote]

Spot on.[/quote]

Thats why the prophet saws said never will a nation thats led by a woman succeed! the sharia will come even if all somali women are against it

stay away from politics and go make me some shaax

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Re: Koonfur Shir: HG, Abgal, MX, MJ, Soo Gala......

Postby Somaliweyn » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:21 am

Luq,

I knew your intention before even opening this silly thread. We both know the pacification of Mogadishu and Southern Somalia involves mostly Hawiye subclans and their neighbours. Your group was brought by Ceyr to Kismanyo, and the city will return to its rightfull owners. Then you'll go back to the periperhy and organize shirs with yourself to figure out how to pacify the ghetto.

Also, don't you just hate that Abgal (the backbone of Mudulood) is always bringing up the Mudulood crew in every political debate? If we look at the issue of Mudulood, it is indeed the largest clan within this grouping that is using the name. Hence, why people like T-L, Noangst, Dr.Yalaxow, Kadare use the Mudulood name. You want to divide the group and isolate the political savvy ones in order to deny Mudulood its rightfull leading position within Somalia. Fortunately, your attempt will stay on Somnet. Since we all know how Mudulood men were on the forefront in the creation of the Somali Republic, and since then were on the forefront.

But what would you know about the history and warmly brother relationship existing between Mudulood subclans?

''Also like as some other subclans have unfortunately 'gained something from lawlessness and anarchy' Ujujeen have not gained anything, not out of 'righteousness' but because they were powerless to do so''

I can say no one benefitted from the lawlessness and anarchy. If you think having a district on lockdown and having a few checkpoints is something to be proud of, well so did Udejeen. Shangaani was controlled by the group, so were a couple of checkpoints. But is this gaining or losing? Udejeen has its dignity, we can not feel proud because of criminal activities, we look always at the big picture: like statebuilding. Hence, why I said: we have nothing to gain from lawlessness and anarchy. You know nothing yet you want to debate with me? Did you know that when Udejeen drops the ''Mudulood'' name we can get along with every Hawiye subclan, because we are respected. I remember how Gen.Aideed would come to Udejeen elders and say that his fight was only with Ali Mahdi/Abgal. Why would HG come to us at their height? It is because in 1991, when Hawiye subclans like Udejeen, Gaaljecel, HG, Xawaadle, Shiiqaal, Murusade etc flooded into Mogadishu, everyone was present when the 4 months war erupted. Gen Aideed had the support of most of Hawiye subclans, the only one left was Udejeen, hence why he wanted to secure our support in order for him to have significant Hawiye support.

But what would you know about inter-Hawiye affaires?


I know your silly attempt at isolating me in order to fantasize about been prominent is going nowhere. As I said many times, I bust myths. And this wet dream of been prominent in Konfur issues will only stay in Somnet.
In real life, you are not prominent, since the only thing (Kismanyo) keeping you prominent will dissapear soon and return to the local groups.

Justice shall eventually prevail. No more lawlessness, no more anarchy and no more landoccupation/expansion.


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