Obama's Views on Somalia & East Africa

[Diblomaasi]

Can someone please enlighten us as to how the inevitable presidency of Obama would effect the US policies in Somalia and East Africa in general? Will he replace Jendayi Frazer, the butcher of mogadishu, and roll back policy changes to pre- bush's second term? How will he handle the looming Ethiopia-Eritrea war? Will he revert the Condoleezzan policy of neglecting the Eritrea-Ethiopia Boundary Commission's decision? How about American fixation on Sudan?

I've been googling for anything related to Obama's views on Somalia and the best I could find was an article from before the ICU takeover.

If I'm not mistaken, there are some pictures circulating of Obama wearing traditional Somali clothes from when he visited Kenya's Somali district (NFD). I like to take that as an indicator of where he stands on Somalia. Or is that just wishful thinking?

We have more stakes in this presidential election then we've ever had in an American election before. Let's just hope that things turn out favorably for our people back home.

[SahanGalbeed]

Frazier works for Rice , and Rice for Bush !
The rest is all speculation dear friend , if diplomacy=the skill in handling affairs without arousing hostility , how about we start with what we know instead of what we're wishing for ??



Just kidding ...j/k

[Diblomaasi]

SahanGalbeed,

How convenient of you to drop by. What I'm asking for in this thread can summed up as a 'sahan' from 'galbeed'.

It is true that Frazier works for Rice, and Rice for Bush. No question about that, but you must also remember that American policy towards East Africa took a radical shift only after Rice was appointed head of the state department at the beginning of Bush's second term.

[Leila2007]

US foreign policy will not change. It doesnt matter if it is a republican or democrat. It is hostile to the rest of the world and that is how it will remain.

You guys need to choose someone that will benefit you in America i.e stimulate the economy ( which is about to collapse in 2008,create jobs , cut tax etc.

As for the pictures of Obama dressed as Somali guy well that was just out of courtesy and the fact that he was in NFD as compared to liking somalis or doing anything to change their plight.

[gurey25]

the problem comes from african americans slavish devotion to mythical Ethiopia.

You can see the look at Jenyadi fraziers face when she visits Addis ababa,
its like she went to heaven or something, or the way a catholic feels when they go to the vatican.

lol


US policy and Ethiopias are aligned at the moment and no change in administration will have a major impact, but there will be some more criticism and cold hard geopolitical conciderations.



I hope Obama is not like other african americans, as he has a more immediate connection to africa,

[PINK_BUNNY]

Obama doesn't give a rats ass about Somalia...Why should he when Somalis themselves don't.

[Diblomaasi]

[quote="gurey25"]the problem comes from african americans slavish devotion to mythical Ethiopia.

You can see the look at Jenyadi fraziers face when she visits Addis ababa,
its like she went to heaven or something, or the way a catholic feels when they go to the vatican.

lol


US policy and Ethiopias are aligned at the moment and no change in administration will have a major impact, but there will be some more criticism and cold hard geopolitical conciderations.



I hope Obama is not like other african americans, as he has a more immediate connection to africa,[/quote]
[quote="PINK_BUNNY"]Obama doesn't give a rats ass about Somalia...Why should he when Somalis themselves don't.[/quote]

I believe Obama will be different since he has ties to the region. One of the reason that Condoleezza & co were able to get away with what they were doing was that bush and the rest of republicans in the administration only gave a shit about Sudan when it came to East Africa. As far as they were concerned, the rest of the countries were insignificant and that's where Condi got the chance to play god in the region.

Condi's policies have in fact drawn fire from conservatives notably John Bolton.

Obama, on the other hand will have a genuine concern in the politics of the region as it effects 'his people'. Whether that concern will translate into favorable policies towards Somalia is a different issue.

[muslim-man]

the question u should ask is, why did obama visit northeastern kenya?? A place where one would not have thought this guy will visit prior to his adventure there? what prompted him to go there???

Therein lie some answers to your question.

[cabdallah252]

obama will get kibaki kicked off, obama's father was luo, railas peoples lol

[kambuli]

Punky, quote " Obama doesn't give a rats ass about Somalia...Why should he when Somalis themselves don't.

The truth!!!!!!

[muslim-man]

I agree but never say never. who knows he might move to mogadishu many years later lol

[AbdiWahab252]

Muslim-man,

Obama went to Wajir to visit his Eedo who is married to a SOmali man, a Degodia.

Thats the reason for his visit & basis of my support for him.

Viva Obama & Raila !

[Aliyah99]

[quote="gurey25"]the problem comes from african americans slavish devotion to mythical Ethiopia.

You can see the look at Jenyadi fraziers face when she visits Addis ababa,
its like she went to heaven or something, or the way a catholic feels when they go to the vatican.

lol


US policy and Ethiopias are aligned at the moment and no change in administration will have a major impact, but there will be some more criticism and cold hard geopolitical conciderations.



I hope Obama is not like other african americans, as he has a more immediate connection to africa,[/quote]


looooooooooool

We should have cornered that market and captued the eternal devotion of African Americans and Rastafarians..

The rasta's should worship Abdiraxmaan Tuur or Cigaal

[fagash_killer]

your q should be how should we save our ppl of this mess shit,how can we unite trough positive thinking.cuss in the end of the day its not obama that will change somalis and somalia but somalis them selves.so what if obama tries but the ppl of somalia dont listen sine he is only an american whatever he is black white jew they wont listen to him cuss somalis are stuck in the past also by siyasaad.and taa labaad how could obama listen to the vioces of divided somalis i mean we all know he would support the tfg and than we will have those who use support him ore even voted for him lose his respect since he choised for the tfg.in short aslong somalis stay divided than no obama and no god can help our country unless we do.cuss somalia is only for somalis right?i agree leila obama can mean something for somali americans and trough the friendship between them can he try to solve the problems trough the somali community in the us our country. and since somalis yiridhaan waxaan maqlaay well imigane if they hear that obama is a true friend for somalia and he wlc alot of somalis from somalia to his country yes only than can we make progess.but understand also that it wont be easy for him when you are a politcian it takes years before that all is accomplised and ten second white american system,israelius lobby illuminti are the ones who are running the country so i wouldnt be suprised if omaba would be seen as a PuPPet slave.understand that obama is in the minorty since blacks are not using their head.i mean when we are close to freedom we dont give a jack,but when the white enslave us we cry for freedom?these 2 dont go togheter.know your history and know your enemy.it would be mo understanding if you said we need another somali obama lolz.

[muslim-man]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Muslim-man,

Obama went to Wajir to visit his Eedo who is married to a SOmali man, a Degodia.

Thats the reason for his visit & basis of my support for him.

Viva Obama & Raila ![/quote]


WOW the guY s got relatives all over the world.

A DEGODIA MARRIED TO A LUHIYA???

talow maxu ku arkey habarta baluuya?