AYMAN AL ZAWAHIRI DISCUSSES SOMALIA

[American Salafi]

Ishaaq Al-Azzraq, on the authority of Al-asmash on the authority of ibn abu awfaa who said:

I heard the messenger of Allah say: The khawarij are the dogs of the Hellf-Fire.

Narrated by Ahmad 4/355 & 4/382, & Ibn Majah 173

[Voltage]

Hadiith are sound ones, disputed ones, and discarded ones. For examle the Ahmediyya use a supposed hadith of the prophet saying something about the moon and the stars will signal the mahdi which I found out has been discredited centuries ago.

Again I am new to indepth learning of the religion but I am educated enough to sift all the input.

I will also take this hadith up.

[American Salafi]

Akhi there is no muslim group that doesn't agree the khawarij are deviants and misguided. So I am not trying to make you look bad by your lack of knowledge but akhi i want advise you sincerely. the prophet said that the religion is sincere advising. so akhi accept my advise and seek knowledge.

[American Salafi]

Also its good to ask for Daleel(evidences). Mashallah. It is always good to seek the evidence and not blind follow like the sufis. Jazahallah.

[Voltage]

[quote="American Salafi"]Akhi there is no muslim group that doesn't agree the khawarij are deviants and misguided. So I am not trying to make you look bad by your lack of knowledge but akhi i want advise you sincerely. the prophet said that the religion is sincere advising. so akhi accept my advise and seek knowledge.[/quote]


No brother, I did not mean to say you belittled me, why should you have when I am the one who asked for proof? It is just that I will take what you brought here and take it to real life people I know, educated enough in the diin to explain to me in detail these hadiiths, what the scholars have said about them over time, etc.

[Shirib]

Zawahiri talking about Somalia can't be really good for Somalia but I agree with most of what Voltage said in here.

[Voltage]

thanc shirib

[American Salafi]

ok inshallah do that.

Also my point is that Ayman Z. is not a man that the muslims should follow because he and his group have some major errors. Like I mentioned earlier like believeing in suicide bombings, killing innocent people, and making takfir on muslims and going against the Rulers. The following traits I mentioned were also done by the khawarij(except for suicide bombings.. Lol. they would have done it if they were here). The prophet said in the hadith i posted early by bukhari that these people (khawarij) look really pious and righteous but at the same time they leave the religion because of the things they did and believed. So inshallah take to the people of Ilm.

[American Salafi]

Akhi This is a serious issue. If have alot of muslims including Somalis that believe this Man and also Bin laden are sheikhs and good people. So we must seek the truth by following the evidence.

[American Salafi]

these are some good websites to benefit from akhi. http://www.spubs.com http://www.al-ibaanah.com and somali http://www.maktabada.com

These websites address the issue of Jihad and the situation of the divided umma and how to unite upon the Haqq and not Baatil. Akhi you have to research and look for the truth.

[Real_1]

Voltage there is no reason for you to question Murax and AS they are right indisputably right the Khawaarij are liars and kaffirs and they killed Uthman RA and Ali RA thats should be enough to prove what they stand for they also practice takfir Osama and Ayman show the characteristics of the Khawaarij but its up to God to judge them

[Voltage]

Real thanx for the input and I did not question Murax, it is my natural response to anything i see as deviation,

[precious_dyme]

Ilahey ha caawiyo diinta ayu u dagaalama sheikka.

[PINK_BUNNY]

I hate these fuckin Arabs. They need to leave Somalia out of their rotten mouths. It's no wonder we're experiencing bombing raids and shit.