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Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:39 pm
by Spookie
[quote="King-of-Awdal"]Didnt Bakaraa market get burned or something?[/quote]

17 yrs of anarchy hasn't put them out of business, so a fire won't stop them.

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:40 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
ceelmacaan WALAAAHI UNDP warbixinteedii ugu DANBEEYSAN 2006 ayey ku qorneeyd. dekadda ceelmacaaan. TIRADA IMPORTIGA AND EXPORTIGA waxay ka horeeysay BERBERA AND BOOSASO PORT 10 TO 1.
shiidaalka ka soo deggan CEELMACAAN aad ayuu uga badnaa midka berbera and boosaso.

cuntada ka soo degtay sidoo kale
alaabta ganacsi ee laga dhoofiyey sidoo kale

INTA MARKAB ee alaaabtooda ku dajisey CAALMACAAN PORT 25 TIMES AYEY KA BADNAAYEEN BERBERA AND BOOSAASO PORT.

WAA MAGACA ILAAHEEY UNDP last report of somalia ayey ku qorneeyd.

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:44 pm
by Twisted_Logic
[quote="DR-YALAXOOW"]ceelmacaan WALAAAHI UNDP warbixinteedii ugu DANBEEYSAN 2006 ayey ku qorneeyd. dekadda ceelmacaaan. TIRADA IMPORTIGA AND EXPORTIGA waxay ka horeeysay BERBERA AND BOOSASO PORT 10 TO 1.
shiidaalka ka soo deggan CEELMACAAN aad ayuu uga badnaa midka berbera and boosaso.

cuntada ka soo degtay sidoo kale
alaabta ganacsi ee laga dhoofiyey sidoo kale

INTA MARKAB ee alaaabtooda ku dajisey CAALMACAAN PORT 25 TIMES AYEY KA BADNAAYEEN BERBERA AND BOOSAASO PORT.

WAA MAGACA ILAAHEEY UNDP last report of somalia ayey ku qorneeyd.[/quote]

I have even posted that study but they refused to acknowledge it. Then they went on desprate spree to find something that would prove their fantasies and in the end they failed, and then came back and started the typical excues and sheeko!

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:45 pm
by King-of-Awdal
Port, Money, Business and all that crap doesnt mean anything until yall stop feeding on each other.

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:47 pm
by Shirib
Somalia is the south, the central is a dessert, what exactly is there but sand and camels. Mareehaan came to Kismayo, Habar Gedir came to Xamar and Shabelle Hoose... Puntland is still waiting on oil

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:49 pm
by Alchemist
[quote="Shirib"]Somalia is the south, the central is a dessert, what exactly is there but sand and camels. Mareehaan came to Kismayo, Habar Gedir came to Xamar and Shabelle Hoose... Puntland is still waiting on oil[/quote]

looooooooool

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:49 pm
by FAH1223
[quote="Shirib"]Somalia is the south, the central is a dessert, what exactly is there but sand and camels. Mareehaan came to Kismayo, Habar Gedir came to Xamar and Shabelle Hoose... Puntland is still waiting on oil[/quote]

you act like there aint no camels in the green fertile souf

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:51 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
[quote="Twisted_Logic"]

I have even posted that study but they refused to acknowledge it. Then they went on desprate spree to find something that would prove their fantasies and in the end they failed, and then came back and started the typical excues and sheeko![/quote]

your rigthe sxb ,dekadda ceelmacaan economecly was bigger both berbera and boosaaso, and ceelmacaan port was not even real port ,what about today mogadishu port is working 100% and the airport is 100% in service.

daily mogadishu port waxay qaabishaa 7 markab, halka berbera ay WEEK aysan ku soo xiran 7 markab. dekada boosaso iskaba dhaaf MARAAKIIBTA waaweeyn kumaba xiran karaan only waxaa ku xirta kuwa yar yar kaliya.


mogadishu airport diyaaradaha JETKA caalamiga ayaa ku soo degta sida AFRICAN AIR.

HALKA HARGEYSA AIRPORT aysan ku degan karin DIYAARADAHA JETKA, WAXAA KU deggan kara kaliya nooca marwaxada yar yar ee qaada 60ka qafood wax ka yar.

boosaasana AIRABOOR MABA AHA WAA MEEL BACAAAD ISKA AH RUNWAY DIYAARAD MABA LAHA.


marka HADDII LA YIRAAHDO DHAQAALAH SOMALIYA waa socdaa meesha socodsiisa waa xamar.

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:56 pm
by Transformer
With 17-plus years of civil war of course you have no other option then to work with what you've got and Somalis as always strive, we are capable people we just don't use our brains to its full capacity.

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:39 pm
by Voltage
[quote="cabdallah252"]Puntland is more than 3 times richer than most of the south, and probably 12 or 13 times richer than Jubbaland/gedo (the poorest part of somalia with only a GDP per capita of around 150$)[/quote]


Funny you say that because reer Gedo traders make more money than even Hargeisa traders let alone dustry Boosaaso because Gedo was very unstable for the majority of the civil war, the money was invested elsewhere in Kenya and Kismaayo:


---" Some of the trade with neighbouring Ethiopia and Kenya takes the form of recorded trade via official crossing-points at Belet Hawa and El Waq on the border with Kenya and at Dolo on the border with Ethiopia. Considerable unofficial trade is also engaged in across the borders with both Kenya and Ethiopia. Extensive small trading goes on in all towns and villages as well.

Kenneth Menkhaus, Assistant Professor at Davidson College/UNDOS consultant, considered the Gedo region's economy to be in reasonably good shape and described trade in the region as "booming". Traders in Gedo made more profit than, for instance, those in Hargeisa, in north-western Somalia (Somaliland). He pointed out that the Gedo region was a centre for brisk trading between Somalia and Kenya or Ethiopia. Large quantities of goods were brought from Mogadishu to Bardera by lorry. Bardera, being the largest town in the Gedo region, formed the centre of that trade, with active flows of funds both from abroad and to and from Mogadishu.

Kenneth Menkhaus explained that the vast bulk of the capital built up in Bardera was channelled back to Mogadishu in order to bring in further goods from Mogadishu (and Merka). He regarded this as a clear sign of economic health, since the money remained in Somalia, while also pointing to his own surprise how little capital there actually was in the Gedo region. Virtually all capital had left the area, with the lack of capital plain to see, not least in Luuq. Kenneth Menkhaus reported people in Luuq to be poor, with hardly any money in circulation. He made it clear that the group of business people in possession of any sizeable trading capital was very small. He also regarded the Small Loan Fund (SLF) scheme run by the Somalia Rehabilitation Project (SRP) as very important for Gedo's economy. The vast majority of imported goods in Gedo come from Mogadishu, making the state of the roads and the security of Gedo's neighbouring regions vitally important if trade is to continue.

While in Luuq, the delegation visited a transhipment centre for imported goods from Mogadishu. The centre contained a number of trucks from Mogadishu, from which goods were transferred to what were referred to as "Marehan trucks". These then took goods on to destinations in Gedo. Luuq District Council reported that it had begun taxing trade in the area. Goods from Mogadishu and livestock transactions were taxed, with the tax revenue being used for purposes including police pay."---

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:42 pm
by PINK_BUNNY
[quote="cabdallah252"]The term Somalia is missleading, its the booming Puntland and Somaliland that are causing Somalia to still mean something on economic level. The GDP per capita in Puntland for instance is about 2,000$ per year. That's more than many African countries but overal the Somali GDP per capita is only 600$, lowered by the dirty south[/quote]

LOL...way to be so honest!

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:49 pm
by Koronto91
[quote="PINK_BUNNY"][quote="cabdallah252"]The term Somalia is missleading, its the booming Puntland and Somaliland that are causing Somalia to still mean something on economic level. The GDP per capita in Puntland for instance is about 2,000$ per year. That's more than many African countries but overal the Somali GDP per capita is only 600$, lowered by the dirty south[/quote]

LOL...way to be so honest![/quote]

How was that honest? Or are you agreeing with him, because you two share a clan?

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:54 pm
by PINK_BUNNY
^^What clan would that be?

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:58 pm
by Goljano Lion
[quote="DR-YALAXOOW"][quote="Twisted_Logic"]

I have even posted that study but they refused to acknowledge it. Then they went on desprate spree to find something that would prove their fantasies and in the end they failed, and then came back and started the typical excues and sheeko![/quote]

your rigthe sxb ,dekadda ceelmacaan economecly was bigger both berbera and boosaaso, and ceelmacaan port was not even real port ,what about today mogadishu port is working 100% and the airport is 100% in service.

daily mogadishu port waxay qaabishaa 7 markab, halka berbera ay WEEK aysan ku soo xiran 7 markab. dekada boosaso iskaba dhaaf MARAAKIIBTA waaweeyn kumaba xiran karaan only waxaa ku xirta kuwa yar yar kaliya.


mogadishu airport diyaaradaha JETKA caalamiga ayaa ku soo degta sida AFRICAN AIR.

HALKA HARGEYSA AIRPORT aysan ku degan karin DIYAARADAHA JETKA, WAXAA KU deggan kara kaliya nooca marwaxada yar yar ee qaada 60ka qafood wax ka yar.

boosaasana AIRABOOR MABA AHA WAA MEEL BACAAAD ISKA AH RUNWAY DIYAARAD MABA LAHA.


marka HADDII LA YIRAAHDO DHAQAALAH SOMALIYA waa socdaa meesha socodsiisa waa xamar.[/quote]

Then how come the NGO,s are feeding Mogadisho residents, am i missing your Eldorado sxb, do you know how many NGO,s are in xamar?

Re: Somalia economy stronger than others in Africa, UN...

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:02 pm
by Goljano Lion
DR-YALAXOOW
Beggars cannot be choosers