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American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

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American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Koronto91 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:20 pm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dYEtiHr84Gc

Watch @ 1:15 where he says "The seeker of knowledge does not busy himself with attacking so & so from the people!" Maybe your little sect should heed the words of the Sheikh and cease the cheap attacks against renowned Islamic scholars including Sh. Qardawi whom your "Sheikhs" call 'The Barking Dog', Sh. A'aied Al-Qarny, Sh. Salman Al-Oudah and Sh. Umal whom you've fabricated lies against.

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby MJ-Pride » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:26 pm

But isnt' sheikh Qardaw the one who legalized suicide bombing without coming any clear daliiil from Quran'an or the Sunnah? I think he deserves whatever they call him

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Koronto91 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:29 pm

^He's entitled to his own opinion, nobody and specially not someone who claims to be a "Sheikh" should be cussing at another scholar by referring to him as 'The Barking Dog.'

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Koronto91 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:36 pm

Watch this video by an African-American woman who talks about her own experiences within the 'Salafiyah' sect:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zoi0_xCkjWU

Listen to 4:10 when she says "If being a Salafi means I've to spend more time critisising my fellow Muslims than actually building them up, then I don't consider myself a Salafi" By tradition, they spend more time critising the scholars and accusing everyone else of being devious than they actually do anything else.

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby MJ-Pride » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:43 pm

Look at this Salafi insulting Usamah bin Laden. Thats low blow. I don't agree with Usamanh radical approach, but at least he aint' taking anything form the West.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=BRSmQ5MpPBM

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby cabdicusman » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:45 pm

how can someone respect or defend Islamic scholar who legalized suicide bombing?

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Koronto91 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:49 pm

[quote="cabdicusman"]how can someone respect or defend Islamic scholar who legalized suicide bombing?[/quote]

Your proof? Or are you talking about the exaggerated & misinterpreted article written by the enemies of Islam?

Anyone who has ever paid close attention to Sh. Qardawi's ideologies can see for themselves that by far he's the most progressive & Westernized scholar out there.

My advice to people like you is to read the Sheikh's biography and books, instead of swallowing every filth thrown at you and speaking on behalf of those who work for the destruction of this Ummah.

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby MJ-Pride » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:52 pm

Koronto, Do you want a source from the BBC indicating that he actually legalized suicide bombing? We all know the BBC is pure honest and never reported false news at all

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby cabdicusman » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:57 pm

Koronto91 glamorizes most progressive & Westernized scholars

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Koronto91 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:57 pm

MJ-Pride,

That article was pure hogwash. Sh. Qardawi is the last scholar to legalize suicide bombings, because of his liberal views. Unlike other scholars, he's very liberal and modern; many have accused him of commiting blasphemy because he said many liberating things about women including a woman does not need a mahram to leave her home.

I read the article and he responded to it by saying his words were taken out of context and twisted around to make it seem like he legalized suicide bombings. Now, who are you going to believe: the BBC (owned by the British government) or a Muslim scholar who spent over 40 years teaching the religion?

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Unclebin- » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:43 pm

Suicide Bombing and a martyrdom operation are two things.

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Murax » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:46 pm

Koronto,

I'm not going to call anyone a howling dog, but Salman al Cawdah, Qardawi, Sh Umul are not the scholars of the Ummah as far as I know. Allah knows best.

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Alchemist » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:48 pm

[quote="Murax"]Koronto,

I'm not going to call anyone a howling dog, but Salman al Cawdah, Qardawi, Sh Umul are not the scholars of the Ummah as far as I know. Allah knows best.[/quote]

Havent seen you online lately, i thought you left for good. lol

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Unclebin- » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:49 pm

No scholar is the scholar of the ummah... No one has more precedence then another... An arab fellow in Cairo doesn't have some special adminstrative powers.... like the pope... We respect them and we love them... But nobody can be a figurehead for muslims without them being a caliph.... There hasn't been none since the ottomans and so every body has there own opinions and two sides that seem polar opposite are justified through proper ijtihad.

Thats why some sheiks say suicide bombings = Xaraam and some don't

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Re: American-Salafi: What The Grand Mufti Says About Your Sect!

Postby Murax » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:57 pm

Unclebin,

Sh Albaani, Sh Cuthaymin, Sh Muqbil, Sh Ibn Baaz raximahullahu cajamain have all passed but they were all the scholars of the Ummah. Their students, the ones who have tooken from them and followed in their path are the scholars of today. Whoever speaks out against them without daliil should not be followed. Ones who slander those great men should not even be listened to, wal yacaadu bilah.


Alchemist,

Inshallah, I'm rehabilitating myself from the retarded qabil jahiliiyah by not even looking or responding to those threads. Make dua that we're saved from that jahiliyah.


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