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im in a debate with another brother about this

someone help me out

ya salaam

I don't think so...but thats just my personal opinion

That was the cause of your problems, isn't it? I mean your atheism.

Salam alaikum

i don't know but the views of sheikhyada differ in those areas..but using the commen sence i don't think so

No Fah,

Nebi Muhammad (mpbbuh) said that it is perfectly possible for a muslim to live anywhere in the world, in any circumstance and be the best muslim he could ever be, for Allah is everywhere equally.


It is not haram, so what it comes down to is the Muslim individual itself. If the individual feels he or she is not strong enough to practice his or her deen to his/her best of abilities and that it could jeapordize its relationship with Allah by living in a non-muslim country, than the person must make the wise decision to move where he/she feels less vulnerable to the sheitaan. Making drastic moves in your life out of concern for your deen is the complete opposite of sinning, so this is good.

Than again if you believe you can be a great muslim in the Western world, than it's highly recommended you stay put. Allah loves a strong muslim who defies the odds against him- or herself. At the end of the day the reward is in the struggle.

you nbeed to rephrase the question sxb.

because the way you asked at the moment dont make any sense what so ever. there are millions muslims living in none-muslim countries, and all for different reason and under different circumstances.


Ps...i see the whole world as a muslim world. Iidoor without boarders!

Someone guy was saying that it is haraam to make hijra to a non Muslim country, so in that sense, ur okay, u were born here, but I don't think it is but don't have anything to back it up other than rationale, which doesn't always work.

What is his claim, does he have evidence.

[quote="Shirib"]Someone guy was saying that it is haraam to make hijra to a non Muslim country, so in that sense, ur okay, u were born here, but I don't think it is but don't have anything to back it up other than rationale, which doesn't always work.

What is his claim, does he have evidence.[/quote]

surah tauba ayah 24

and a hadith from Dawood where Nabi SAW says: "I have nothing to do with any Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen"

does anyone else see the irony in what Starscream writes and what he shows on his avatar?

Assalamualikum,

Fahi, this is an issue we must take to the scholars or the people of knowledge unless a explicit hadith or Ayah is produced from the Quran. The religion is a religion of "Burhaan" (evidence) and people here may produce a fatwa no knowing what there talking about. Allah knows best, wa billahi towfiq.

[quote="Starscream"]No Fah,

Nebi Muhammad (mpbbuh) said that it is perfectly possible for a muslim to live anywhere in the world, in any circumstance and be the best muslim he could ever be, for Allah is everywhere equally.


It is not haram, so what it comes down to is the Muslim individual itself. If the individual feels he or she is not strong enough to practice his or her deen to his/her best of abilities and that it could jeapordize its relationship with Allah by living in a non-muslim country, than the person must make the wise decision to move where he/she feels less vulnerable to the sheitaan. Making drastic moves in your life out of concern for your deen is the complete opposite of sinning, so this is good.

Than again if you believe you can be a great muslim in the Western world, than it's highly recommended you stay put. Allah loves a strong muslim who defies the odds against him- or herself. At the end of the day the reward is in the struggle.[/quote]

see this is what im telling him

but he seems to be thinking that just moving to the muslim world will solve everything, when a lot of places may not....

ha ha ha haha

What if one wanted to move to a Muslim country but was turned away? Is that not what happened to a lot of Somalis during the civil war? They found sanctuary in "gaalo" lands because their so-called Muslim "brothers" refused them entry.

Yes, it is haram if you are a strict orthodox. But some say no. I follow the former, and i'm working to get the hell out.lol

[quote="PosH"]What if one wanted to move to a Muslim country but was turned away? Is that not what happened to a lot of Somalis during the civil war? They found sanctuary in "gaalo" lands because their so-called Muslim "brothers" refused them entry.[/quote]

Yup a lot of my family (parents 1st cousins) went to Saudi and Dubai, just to be sent back.