are somalians cushitic?

[maraax123]

[quote="HAUDflower"]Maraax13,

For some odd reason, Cushitic ethnic groups have extremely close cultural ties with the Massai. It transcends even genetics. From our clothing, to our hygiene, to our marriage customs and our physical build. I've never seen a Somali refer to Massai culture like they do Arab culture or Habesha culture. All older Somalis, ages 60 and up, think that Massai are somehow a Somali clan, LOL, I've actually heard it before.

If you ever want to see how your ancestors lived 3,000 years ago, study the Massai and you'll find out how far we've come and what our real path was.

And not to mention, Somalis are not from Sudan or "Kush" as once believed, but from the Omo Tana rivers in Kenya where the Som clan split from the Omo Tana's major tribe in 1,000 BC, and by 500 BC, most of the Ogaden basin was inhabited by Somalis. Som was a shortened nickname for a famous Omo Tana tribesmen named "Somaale" -- aka IRIR SAMAALE, the common father of the Somalis -- that's why I also believe that Hawiye have the longest ancestry of any Somali clan, it goes back almost 100 generations but Isaaq and Darood do not surpass 35 generations. Hawiye ancestry dates back to the first day of the modern Somali ethnic group, but Isaaq and Darood were hashed from a recruitment tool used by Arab merchants and imams.

Somalis have no mention in the Bible, we are not from Kush or descended from "Ham" or "Sam" or whatever they call it in the Hebrew fiction tale. Somalis are simply an indigenous East African tribe, as old as time.[/quote]

Haudfolwer i am a maasie literly, we believe that somalis are one of many clans that can trace their roots to us.

[HAUDflower]

[quote="justice4basra"]HAUDflower, so your saying Somalians are from Kenya, somewhere near the Tana river?[/quote]
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I'm not simply insisting it, there's hard proof for it.

http://countrystudies.us/somalia/3.htm

Please, read this part.


In addition to the Somalis, the Cushites include the largely nomadic Afar (Danakil), who straddle the Great Rift Valley between Ethiopia and Djibouti; the Oromo, who have played such a large role in Ethiopian history and in the 1990s constituted roughly one-half of the Ethiopian population and were also numerous in northern Kenya; the Reendille (Rendilli) of Kenya; and the Aweera (Boni) along the Lamu coast in Kenya. The Somalis belong to a subbranch of the Cushites, the Omo-Tana group, whose languages are almost mutually intelligible. The original home of the Omo-Tana group appears to have been on the Omo and Tana rivers, in an area extending from Lake Turkana in present-day northern Kenya to the Indian Ocean coast.

The Somalis form a subgroup of the Omo-Tana called Sam. Having split from the main stream of Cushite peoples about the first half of the first millennium B.C., the proto-Sam appear to have spread to the grazing plains of northern Kenya, where protoSam communities seem to have followed the Tana River and to have reached the Indian Ocean coast well before the first century A.D. On the coast, the proto-Sam splintered further; one group (the Boni) remained on the Lamu Archipelago, and the other moved northward to populate southern Somalia. There the group's members eventually developed a mixed economy based on farming and animal husbandry, a mode of life still common in southern Somalia. Members of the proto-Sam who came to occupy the Somali Peninsula were known as the so-called Samaale, or Somaal, a clear reference to the mythical father figure of the main Somali clan-families, whose name gave rise to the term Somali.

The Samaale again moved farther north in search of water and pasturelands. They swept into the vast Ogaden (Ogaadeen) plains, reaching the southern shore of the Red Sea by the first century A.D. German scholar Bernd Heine, who wrote in the 1970s on early Somali history, observed that the Samaale had occupied the entire Horn of Africa by approximately 100 A.D.

[justice4basra]

Omo-Tanans? hmmm

[HAUDflower]

[quote="justice4basra"]Omo-Tanans? hmmm[/quote]
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Those are our tribal roots.

:)

[HAUDflower]

[quote="maraax123"]Haudfolwer i am a maasie literly, we believe that somalis are one of many clans that can trace their roots to us.[/quote]
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You might be quite right about that.

[justice4basra]

[quote="HAUDflower"]
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Those are our tribal roots.

:)[/quote]

many would be disappointed as they were hoping they had roots in ancient Egyptian pharaohs. i don't know if you've read the pharaoh topics

[Wareer]

Darood are semitic by genetic. For example, It is found that Warsanglei are so Arabized and semitized.

"Physically, the Galla resemble the Tutsi in face and nose shape but they are shorter in stature and head length. Their skin is dark , brown , and black. Their hair form falls most often in the curly to kinky class; a few individuals shows the ppercorn type, but nearly 9 percent of them have hair with long, broad waves, which speaks for a moderate Arab influence in their gene pool.

"The Two samples of Somali on which detailed anthropomentric date are available show significant differences. The small sample of southern Somali soldiers , most of Sab descent (Digil iyo Mirifle) measured by Pucconi resemble the Tutsi rather closely.
The Larger sample of Northern Somali belonging to various groups , the best represented by being the Warsingali have a relatively narrower face and nose, apprently they are strongly Arabicized. "

"As a whole, however, the northern Somali do not tend to have an especially important Arab component in their gene pool. " THE PEOPLE OF AFRICA, by Jean Hiernaux. P. 144-145

[WasteMan]

hawiye are the oldest somalis and are cushtic just like oromo and afar

darood and isaaq were refugees from arabia and are semites like amhara and tigre

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Cursed tree and the northeners claim to be arabs,so only we(hawiye,rahanweyn,midgaan)are cushitic.

[Unclebin-]

Somalis are africans... Outdated maps from racist scientist using pseudo maps........... from idiots like Carletoon Coon are not really validated...

These are the same fools who thought the tutsi originated in Ethiopia.

Berbers are Indegenious africans too..... They've just evolved in there climates to there present day situation....

The white man has also included Somalis as Dark Whites why? Because Southern Europeans especially Balkans carry heavt amounts of Neolithic East African Y-chromosomes......

So they are trying to seperate us from "NEGRO"

[HAUDflower]

[quote="justice4basra"]many would be disappointed as they were hoping they had roots in ancient Egyptian pharaohs. i don't know if you've read the pharaoh topics[/quote]
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Its funny that people say we are from pharaohs and at the same time claim that the pharaohs were actively trading with the people of "Land of Punt" aka Northern Somalia.

Truth is that the Pharaohs were trading with the people of the Land of Punt and the Land of Punt is in the horn of Africa.

HOWEVER, at 2,000 BC, when the trades occurred, Somalis did not even inhabit the Ogaden basin or anywhere in the modern horn of Africa. At 2,000 BC we were in the Omo and Tana rivers. The people in the Land of Punt were probably the real Cushites who traveled from Sudan and we are at best an invading tribe that took their land and dumped their corpses to sea.

There is no such thing as De-Evolution in concept. How did we have civilizations 3,000 years ago and yet we were at the tribal stage just 70 years ago and still are to some extent? It makes no sense.

Ask yourself the above.

[Wareer]

As neocon says all the time, It is real Somali and Somalized Somalis, but we share the name though.

[fagash_killer]

what do you think when you hear black gods,caabuudwaaq,land of god? understand that we are the chosen ppl mentiod in the bible aka the sons of israel.if oromos and somalis were the largest group of ethiopia 2000 years ago than who did god mentiod in the bible cuss you can find 80 times the name ethiopia in the bible.

[cabdallah252]

Cushitic = All Ethiopians, Eritreans, Djiboutians and Somalis, North Eastern Kenyans (Somalis and Borenas only) and North Eastern Sudanis (Beja and Hedareb people only)

120 million cushites in the world!

[The_Emperior5]

king kush amxaraada ba wuu dhallay funny thin like how the white man dadka afrikaanka uuu dhacay look at his land europe and america so cilized and iyakii na wuxu ka dhadhicye tutsis is the chief and hutu is ceel qodde alla ninku bello badana
afrikaanki xumma na run buu mooday markaasu intii ba gawracay halku cadaanka ka gawracay eey