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SomaliNet Forums • Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.
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Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:20 pm
by Twisted_Logic
It should be clear by now that Somalia is the worst example of a failed state. Evidently, most people have their own ideas as to who is really the real reason behind the demise of the Somali State.

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:23 pm
by The_Emperior5
me = s n m qarrandummis and my objective was somaliland

waanan ghaadhay taas

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:24 pm
by xoogSADE14
There isn't a single reason behind why Somalia is fukked, but if I had to pick the main reason it would the dabodhilif rebel groups and the mooryaans they left behind.

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:25 pm
by Shirib
The Somali people for not saying stop. When Isaaq were getting massacred no one cared.When Hawiye were getting massacred no one cared. When Darood were getting massacred no one cared. When Digil y Mirifle were getting massacred and starving to death no one cared.

Its our fault for not saying stop but rather supporting it.

Some people wee ku faanaan that there qabiil massacred innocent civillians.

Its our fault cause we fuel it

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:28 pm
by The_Emperior5
[quote="Shirib"]The Somali people for not saying stop. When Isaaq were getting massacred no one cared.When Hawiye were getting massacred no one cared. When Darood were getting massacred no one cared. When Digil y Mirifle were getting massacred and starving to death no one cared.

Its our fault for not staying stop but rather supporting it.

Some people wee ku faanaan that there qabiil massacred innocent civillians.

Its our fault cause we fuel it[/quote]


ninkan mirifle ayaa runta sheegay

waka warkii uu dhan

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:29 pm
by Shirib
^^ I'm Digil

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:30 pm
by The_Emperior5
and i am xururfle

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:35 pm
by Alchemist
I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy..

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:36 pm
by FAH1223
[quote="The_Emperior5"]and i am xururfle[/quote]

wtf? lmao

dude, whats your beef with them? looool

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:47 pm
by Somalian_Boqor
It's Siyad barre master plan. He once said a Somalia without me will be a nonfunctional Somalia.

80% of the Blamed should be on Siyad Barre former Government cause that government was in power for 21 years. The wrongs of that Government brought the Somali nation on it's nees. The USC has the rest of the blame 20% cause they were looking for Power and once they got it they didn't know what to do with it. It was also the USC that destroyed our beloved Capital.

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:56 pm
by xoogSADE14
[quote="Somalian_Boqor"]It's Siyad barre master plan. He once said a Somalia without me will be a nonfunctional Somalia.

80% of the Blamed should be on Siyad Barre former Government cause that government was in power for 21 years. The wrongs of that Government brought the Somali nation on it's nees. The USC has the rest of the blame 20% cause they were looking for Power and once they got it they didn't know what to do with it. It was also the USC that destroyed our beloved Capital.[/quote]

In other words, Majertens had nothing to do with what went wrong in Somalia? War ninyahow caqli badanidaa ma Einstein beey wax kuu galeen?

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:11 pm
by surrender
[quote="Twisted_Logic"]It should be clear by now that Somalia is the worst example of a failed state. Evidently, most people have their own ideas as to who is really the real reason behind the demise of the Somali State.[/quote]


somalia isnt the worst failed state, they are one of the failed states. i can name few. bigger, stronger, richer, more powerfull empires, states, nations, and tribes that failed before us! here are some:
the people of Caad, Luud, and Thaamuud, the lost city of Atlantis, Egyptian empire, Roman empire, Persian empire, USSR. and these are just a few.
why are we any different? dont think we are. we didnt fellow allah's words, and dont think allah has forggetten the rest of the unbelievers, because allah never fogets, he forgives though.

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:12 pm
by FAH1223
all the rebel groups from all the clans AND their mooryan

EVERY CLAN

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:13 pm
by American-Suufi
People get the leaders they deserve, may they be MSB, Abdulahi Yusuf, Riyaale or Aideed. Many factors were behind the fall of Somalia, such as Poverty, illiteracy, dictatorship and tribal loylaty which is a deadly combination for a state to grow and prosper. There were more literate Somalis in Somalia decades ago than today. Today, Somalis reached a point of no return to normalcy. Blame Somalis.

Re: Factors behind the fall of the Somali State.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:25 pm
by MJ-Pride
We all share this Failed State:

Marehans 20%( for sitting on the seat too long AND introducing nepotism and clan favoritism)

HG 40%( For instigating war with every Somali clan and destroying the capital)

Abgaal 10%( For their share of Moqdisho distruction and bring the Ethiopians)

Majeerteen 15% ( For their share of bringing the Ethiopians and starting first ever rebel against the Government)

Isaaaqs 5% ( For starting the SNM rebel)

Rest of Daroods(OG, dhulos, Warsans, Leelkase) 3% for their share of the Hawiye vs Darood civil war

Rest of Hawiye(Murursade, Hawaadle, Gaaljecel etc) 3% For their share of the Hawiye vs DArood civil war

Digle and Mrifle 3% for getting involved in the Hawiye vs Darood civil war and their unholy alliance with Hawiye

Minorities( Jareer Weyn, reer xamar, etc) 1% for also backing Hawiye albeit with lesser extent