Gen Morgan, ina Siyaad Barre, and the King of Oman.

[Alchemist]

[quote="Voltage"][quote="Cawar"]I dont care that much about Gen. Morgan..but dont you think the whole of somalia is full of butchers who may be even involved in this current and future governments??

Morgan has been a non factor for the last several yrs..but when he was...just a soldier just Like Gani AUN was..as well as Riyale, Si.lanyo and many otehrs
[/quote]


Nuremburg trials of the Nazis were all officers.

Morgan was not a "soldier". He was the commander who used to force sadistic "beauty peagents" on the poor sisters of ours in the north. Him and any other fools who had a hand in it should be tried and sentence accordingly, Mareexaan, Majeerteen, Midgaan, or not.[/quote]

Lately nothing but the truth is coming out of voltage...

This has a lot of people confused..

[Voltage]

[quote="Cawar"][quote="Voltage"]Cawar even Morgan's children in Columbus do not claim him.[/quote]

C'mmon man..be serious!!!



"Nuremburg trials of the Nazis were all officers."

Equating somalia's stuation with that of the nazis..is jus ludcrous..The nazis massacred millions of ppl just because they belonged to certain ethnicity..while the somali gov. was defending its own territorial integrity..

Sland..was a break away region that tried to stirr trouble into a dictators own rule..now what they got was certainly brutal and unfair..but putting the blame on Morgan..which btw I am absolutely all for it..and trying to make his own commander as innocent..(which you can blame me for it too...as I have defended MSB ferociously in the past)..does qualify you as an opportunist..not fr a lack of a better word..but I am hesitant to use other words..lol[/quote]


Listen to me dude, wallahi I do not want to insult you by saying you bringing up defense for MSB is to try to get me to "shut it" but that is what it seems like it bro.

I dhagayso si fiican. The official objective of the Somali government was to prevent disintegration of Somalia's territorial integrity but the officers on the ground from Gaani to Morgan and others committed WAR CRIMES. They committed crimes against humanity and those alive should face up to what they did along with the sadistic warlords of the civil war.

There is no excuse for this, I do not understand why you are supplying a doomed man's defense for these s.ick creatures.

[Voltage]

[quote="Alchemist"][quote="Voltage"][quote="Cawar"]I dont care that much about Gen. Morgan..but dont you think the whole of somalia is full of butchers who may be even involved in this current and future governments??

Morgan has been a non factor for the last several yrs..but when he was...just a soldier just Like Gani AUN was..as well as Riyale, Si.lanyo and many otehrs
[/quote]


Nuremburg trials of the Nazis were all officers.

Morgan was not a "soldier". He was the commander who used to force sadistic "beauty peagents" on the poor sisters of ours in the north. Him and any other fools who had a hand in it should be tried and sentence accordingly, Mareexaan, Majeerteen, Midgaan, or not.[/quote]

Lately nothing but the truth is coming out of voltage...

This has a lot of people confused..[/quote]

Alchemist let us hope others like you also see the light and start embracing the real truth and justice, not only when it suits us.

[neocon_2007]

Today Morgan along with Siyaad Barre are quiet irrelevant, 1 dead other living on crumbs. Both should have been shot dead due to the recoil effect against us and the SNM. Thousands of civilian casualties in Hargesia and Ceerigabo, clearly what relevance does Kismayo have on Somalias instability or current power struggle over Xamar? None, so whether Morgan, Afgudud or the likes wheel enough arm to take back Kismayo it really doesnt matter. The terrorists based in Kismayo should be apprehended and if Omani collection plate can get rid of these goons in lower Jubba then AY is fulfilling his duties.

[Cawar]

"Listen to me dude, wallahi I do not want to insult you by saying you bringing up defense for MSB is to try to get me to "shut it" but that is what it seems like it bro."

Loool..I think you are either a man who has BUUFIS..or you misundersttod greatly the concept of reverse psychology...cos you are implying it now..which is absolutely NOT the case..

Anyhow..I am not...and again I am NOT defending Morgan..as I have stated in my frist post which you selectively took some of it..

All I did was to ask you some legit Qs..at least in my view..and you came back with things and wrods that werent necc..just go back to the previous page..and you will realize it.

PS. Again I emphasize it..I am all for justice...so log as its distributed fairly and everyone/criminal is subjected to it..capisci now?? I hope so.

[Voltage]

Neocon------"bacaac", "bacaac". Why are the Warsangelis on this site 24/7 on Mareexaan? I mean seriously I hate to talk about direct tribalism, but I have YET to witness one Mareexaan even mention Warsangeli, yet from you to Wareer to the fake "Absame" are literally obsessed with us. What do you want from them? Recognition that you exist??

Cawar, dude I understand perfectly where you are coming from and I know exactly what you are implying. Because this guy is Morgan, there is history vis-a-vis Kismaayo that I am being opportunistic inregards to the past attrocities he committed right?

Typical dude and do you know what I call that?......smoke-screen..!

Whether I am being opportunistic or not does not in any shape or form negate that he DID committ those attrocities. But even as it is, why would I point the same finger at the deceased Gaani and all others who are finger-pointed as being war criminals?

You have no case dude.

[Cawar]

Waryaa meesha nagu kala wad..sheeki murti badan ma wadide...lol

All I am asking..actually advising you to do so..since I kinda consider myself some sort of an older brother to you...I just want you to sound less confused at times..and esp...try to be more consistent with your analysis..

I am sure you will learn that as you go along and pick up more wisdom with age..cos you seem to display the intellect to be able to pick that wisdm and hikmah..if you are willing to do so..

[neocon_2007]

Sarcasm can't be taken lightly between its not our fault for the incompetent former President who you happen to be affilated with (tribal). Besides if we were to be blunt who would want to seek recognition from your kin? Let Morgan have fun if he takes back Kismayo whose going to be complaining?


Silent---crickets chirp----

[Voltage]

Siyaasada dhabayaacaad meesha keentay lol sxb...waxaad diidaysid waa Morgan dambiile weeye ee maxkamad hala saaro so maaha kkkkkkkkk

[Cawar]

[quote="Voltage"]Siyaasada dhabayaacaad meesha keentay lol sxb...waxaad diidaysid waa Morgan dambiile weeye ee maxkamad hala saaro so maaha kkkkkkkkk[/quote]

Dude,

With all confidence and comfort I can say (excuse my frnech) Fok Dhabayaco, Fok Marexan..and fok all qabilism...and I dont meant it in a bad way..but it doesnt influence my own life..

I hope you will be able to see the world like that and not through a myopic view all concentrated on qabilism.

[Voltage]

[quote="neocon_2007"]Sarcasm can't be taken lightly between its not our fault for the incompetent former President who you happen to be affilated with (tribal). Besides if we were to be blunt who would want to seek recognition from your kin? Let Morgan have fun if he takes back Kismayo whose going to be complaining?


Silent---crickets chirp----[/quote]


My relations to the "Incompetent former president". Yet you use the fact he was president of Somalia for 21 years to trying to big yourself up in debates against the iddoor and Hawiye. Remember the time I shut you up for "misusing" the past for divisive purposes?

Neocon I really do think you, Absame/Wareer, etc suffer from inferiority complex in regards to Mareexaan. Perhaps you feel they are not as warm as they should be towards you or perhaps for other reasons, and oftentimes you display this in rather bigoted and somethings obsessive ways.

Dude I have nothing against Warsangeli and I have never seen any real Sade here address Warsangeli in anything other than passing cordiality so what is your beefs?

[Voltage]

[quote="Cawar"][quote="Voltage"]Siyaasada dhabayaacaad meesha keentay lol sxb...waxaad diidaysid waa Morgan dambiile weeye ee maxkamad hala saaro so maaha kkkkkkkkk[/quote]

Dude,

With all confidence and comfort I can say (excuse my frnech) Fok Dhabayaco, Fok Marexan..and fok all qabilism...and I dont meant it in a bad way..but it doesnt influence my own life..

I hope you will be able to see the world like that and not through a myopic view all concentrated on qabilism.[/quote]


I applaud you but I want to see you put what you say in action.

[neocon_2007]

Voltage I have no beef with any qabil I take shots at all of them. Don't take this joint serious, I have no "beef" with Marehan nonetheless due to the incompetency of the former regime we felt the direct consequences of both targets of a tribal group, Isaaq, and a broken infrastructure. We, well hopefully the sentiments are mutual, Warsangelis have realized the MSB regime has destroyed our alliances with several Northern tribes as well as created a reef of instability among our communities. One insignificant being, MSB, has crippled our role throughout Northern Somalia for that we continue to amend.

Inferiority complex is quiet strong the role of MSB and his 21 yrs doesnt equate much success to mustar such feelings against Marehan. The head of the state, MSB, viewed us to be his lesser which in reverse would equate a complex. MSB had a vendetta against us, strangled our economy and neglected his duties as a Presidence. Not quiet cordial but was atypical Warlord, nothing to boast of this individual. Unfortanetly X.playa summed up the relevance of your kin as well as their place in Somalia.

[James Dahl]

Morgan is a war criminal not necessarily because of what he did but HOW he did it. Morgan did not just attack "separatist" militias, he bombed cities and schools and hospitals and used rape, torture and murder as weapons of terror.

And as for him being a soldier of Somalinimo, have you forgotten that when he took over Kismayo using the same unspeakable tactics he used up north, he declared Jubbaland an independent state, then engaged in a campaign of terror against all who would oppose him throughout the Juba valley? Is this the stalwart defender of Somali unity you were speaking of?

Of the horrid war criminals of the civil war, only Qeybdiid and Morgan remain alive, and both are on the TFG payroll, Qeybdiid even in a military capacity! Both should be either shot or sent to the Hague.

[AbdiWahab252]

James Dahl,

All Somali war criminals should be tried for their crimes.

Voltage,

Well put. Every war criminal must be arrested and put into jail.