THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON WHY THIS SHOULD BE MOVED MODS ITS ABOUT HISTORICAL EVENTS AND NOT SANDBOX TRIBAL ARGUMENTS!!!!!
During my time away from the computer due to finals and things of that nature certain lads (Somaliweyn and Twisted) did not take the advice of Col. Xoogsade to hid for a week for the embarrassment they received in that topic, instead the resident buffoons started to 'wabeey' as usual. Lack of comprehension, basic Somali historical knowledge, and frustration (Twisted being the more pinky of the two "Pinky and The Brain") was quite evident in their back and forth 'wabeey' dialogue.
Lets take a look back at my previous statement of the mythical, "second to Sayid Abdulla Hassan," battle:
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Lol, its quite amazing how people love to spin stories. Somaliweyn do you think people cannot obtain the book and thus will take your word for it?
Page 65, Chapter Three, Italian Colonialism in Somalia:
"Within ten days he [Italian investigator Sorrentino] had determined that Lafole incident [the one our friend Somaliweyn speaks off] was neither the precursor of a general uprising against the Italians nor an Ethiopian ambush but an isolated case of action by Wadan tribesmen and the tribes of Geladi, who had been SPURRED TO THE ACT BY TWO ARABS FROM MUQDISHO. Upon closer inspection Dulio and Sorrentino discovered that Abu Bakr bin Awod, Filonardi's [Italian commander] interpreter, and a certain Islam bin Muhammad were the two Arabs responsible for INSTIGATING the massacre. THEIR MOTIVE HAD BEEN FEAR OF LOSING THE PROFITABLE POSITION THEY HELD UNDER THE FILONARDI ADMINSTRATION."
Page 66, Chapter Three, Italian Colonialism in Somalia:
"When reinforcements of two companies of Eritrean askaris finally arrived in March, the Italians completed their plans for the PUNITIVE expedition against the Wadan and Gedladi. On April 20, Sorrentino led his expedition inland burned Lafole and several other villages. The encounter with the Italians SUBDUED the Sultan of Gedladi, WHO QUICKLY SIGNED A TREATY OF PEACE AND PLEDGED OBEDIENCE TO THE ITALIAN GOVERNMENT. "
My friends this was described to us by certain lads on here as an epic battle of freedom fighters against colonialist, mind you, this was a case of use and abuse. Two Arabs, a mere two Arab men, outsmarted the wacdan clan into fighting the Italians because the Arabs were afraid of losing their interpretor job and wanted Filonardi to die so they can keep the job; reinforces the common Somali conception of "caqli abgaal" eh lol? Mind you, the mudulood clan never fought against the Italians before the Arabs convinced them to fight, except for when two Italians were killed by abgaals, when the Italians first step foot in Somalia by boat, after the killing of the two men the Mudulood and other clans signed peace treaty and that was it no more "resistance" [page 31 of the book.] Back to the "epic battle" that "sparked the longest resistance struggles in Southern Somalia" and which was "SECOND to Sayyid Abdulle Hasans and his darawiish," after the wacdan killed those Italians so the Arabs can secure their jobs the Italians took action to PUNISH the clan -- the word used in the book is quite amusing, PUNITIVE, see even the Italians thought they were used that this was not something they came up with and that they just needed to be PUNISHED so they won't follow any more people lol-- lafole and other villages were burnt and the Geladi Sultan, who is also the Sultan of Wacdan since they have an alliance and one sultan, signed a pledge and OBEDIENCE to the Italians.
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The more Pinky of the two, Twisted-Logic, 'wabeeyd' the loudest uttering things such as you are lying, and used the posts of Somaliweyn in a much more previous topic pertaining to the mythical battle, his tactic was; length, write as much as you can, copy and paste and do not make sense. Somaliweyn picked and chose his statements and used lines from different books and tried to make it one in the same by the way.
Lets view what Somaliweyn and Twisted derived from the book [Italian Colonialism in Somalia, BY Robert Hess] and the source of the mythical battle only next to Sayyid Abdulle Hasan:
Page 31
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Page 62
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Those two lines where all they used to make up their story, but they never mentioned anything else Robert Hess said, and they went straight into another book written by Lee V Cassanelli tittled, "The Shaping of a Somali Scoiety," in which they pick and chose paragraphs and made idiotic statements as in this topic
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Now, in that topic they made it seem as if Lee's paragraph about Wacdaan and his description of "Lafoole Massacre" were one in the same. On page 208, you can see he is talking about "Lafoole Massacre" aka "Axad Shekki," and on the bottom you can see that he clearly states he will examine various groups who were with or against the colonial power, and he starts with the geladi clan.
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One page 217, Lee starts to speak of Wacdan, its does not pertain to "Axad Shekki" as twisted and somaliweyn would have liked us to believe, remember he said will inform us of clans who were with or against the colonial power. This is what he said of Wacdan:
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Anyone who held from Mahad-Moldheere, the clan that was first to show SUBMISSION to the Italians was known as a prestige person of Wacdan lol, this is the clan somaliweyn and co. want to depict as nationalist, the second dervishes. Lets go back to Robert Hess's book, our friends only provided lines and a paragraph from pages 31 and 62 and never mentioned anything else, when I present the other information in the book, and the real reason for "Axad Shekki," they cried and said nac-nac all day so I will let you lot see whats in the book yourselves and I want you to tell me if what I said in my earlier explanation of that mythical battle "only second to Sayiid Abdulle Hassan and the derveshis" as Somaliweyn puts it, is true or not.
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I also presented some interesting facts in which Hawiye clans, including the mobileen and wacdan of Mudulood, pledged allegiance to the colonial powers and taunted the Governor so that he might attack Sayid Abdulle Hassan and the Biyomaal dervishes:
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Lastly, I informed them that my clan of Sade were never subjects of Italians nor ever submitted to colonial powers and used evidence from Roberts Hess's book and they called it a fairytale, yet they highlighted sentences and made mythical epic battles out of it lol.
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After this, Twisted, as I have stated he is the one who 'wabeeys' the loudest presented the Baardheere Jaamaca v. Geladi wars as if it was Marexaan in that war. He also presented a line where it states a post in luuq in 1850 or 60 something to show Italian control over Marexaan not noting that Marexaan were not in Gedo during both of these times and that if he had a background of Somali History he would have known this, or even if he had read "Sufism in Somaliland: A Study in Tribal Islam--I, by I. M. Lewis."
