Where is that fool Somaliweyn revisited!

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Murax"]Twisted Logic,


Then go refute what is in the Lafoole thread! LOL...[/quote]

Murax,

Every claim Sadeboi and his little brother brought forth were dismantled and thrown right off the window. Every-one who followed the discussion admits that Sadeboi's and his brother's deluded arguments are just that-delusional denial of the truth.

[Voltage]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"][quote="Murax"]Twisted Logic,


Then go refute what is in the Lafoole thread! LOL...[/quote]

Murax,

Every claim Sadeboi and his little brother brought forth were dismantled and thrown right off the window. Every-one who followed the discussion admits that Sadeboi's and his brother's deluded arguments are just that-delusional denial of the truth.[/quote]



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[Rebel-Lion]

Bipolar Voltage

Imagine if you spent the amount of time you spend on somalinet at something productive, you wouldn't be talking about going to med school everyday but actually be there.

Anyways this will keep you occupied for a bit. I've been reading this journal article about jubbaland, and it seems marehan and isaaq were the most colonial friendly clans in somalia. So it's a bit rich for you to be criticizing others of being traitors.

"Yet, the fact that the colonialists sought to create divisions among the peoples they ruled to maintain imperial authority is certainly also an important component to understanding events surrounding the Aulihan rebellion. The British use of chiefs like Hajji Hasan and 'Ali 'Abdi has already been mentioned. Beyond this, most of their intelligence came from Somali spies, friendly traders, or other Somalis who were doubtless interested more in their own concerns than in imperial prerogatives. Moreover, some of these Somali agents did more than gather information--some spread disinformation among fellow Somalis while the authorities employed others to ensure that no combination could be accomplished by poisoning any negotiations with the Aulihan. Indeed, when the punitive expedition actually got underway, many of the British askaris were Isaak Somalis from British Somaliland, and a number of local Marehan joined the colonial troops in suppressing the Aulihan."British Perspectives on Aulihan Somali Unrest in the East Africa Protectorate, 1915-1918

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Rebel-Lion"]Bipolar Voltage

Imagine if you spent the amount of time you spend on somalinet at something productive, you wouldn't be talking about going to med school everyday but actually be there.

Anyways this will keep you occupied for a bit. I've been reading this article jubbaland, and it seems marehan and isaaq were the most colonial friendly clans in somalia. So it's a bit rich for you to be criticizing others of being traitors.

"Yet, the fact that the colonialists sought to create divisions among the peoples they ruled to maintain imperial authority is certainly also an important component to understanding events surrounding the Aulihan rebellion. The British use of chiefs like Hajji Hasan and 'Ali 'Abdi has already been mentioned. Beyond this, most of their intelligence came from Somali spies, friendly traders, or other Somalis who were doubtless interested more in their own concerns than in imperial prerogatives. Moreover, some of these Somali agents did more than gather information--some spread disinformation among fellow Somalis while the authorities employed others to ensure that no combination could be accomplished by poisoning any negotiations with the Aulihan. Indeed, when the punitive expedition actually got underway, many of the British askaris were Isaak Somalis from British Somaliland, and a number of local Marehan joined the colonial troops in suppressing the Aulihan."British Perspectives on Aulihan Somali Unrest in the East Africa Protectorate, 1915-1918[/quote]

Rebel-Lion,

Dude did you have to use that source? I was going to use it for my next wave of attacks man. But anywyas, nice find, it is always a treat to see some-one burst these deluded kids' bubbles.

[Rebel-Lion]

twisted logic

Beesha Sade are good people, but the kids like bi polar voltage here are giving them a bad image.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Rebel-Lion"]twisted logic

Beesha Sade are good people, but the kids like bi polar voltage here are giving them a bad image.[/quote]

I agree man. These kind of deluded people make you hate an entire clan because of their stupidity.

[Voltage]

Caasho-Rebel, maybe Somali history is new to you but instead of opening your azz-crack like a w.hore in need of a john, try to ASK first if such things were discussed or not.

There is a 10-page discussion about the very document you brought (and the same one Wabeey-boy up there says he wanted to use) with Cilmiile, who is a much stronger debater than either you or Wabeey-boy can ever hope to be.


Here is the 10-page discussion about it:

>http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=118115&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=mursal&start=15

To summarize, Mareexaan fought a glorious war with the British (described in a chapter called the "Marehan Offensive" in the book the King's African Rifles) and Abdirahmaan Mursal, the Cawlyahan leader, supported the British as is written in the same article you brought which led the Mareexaan to then support the British against him:

[quote="sadeboi"][quote]To take the case of the Mare h a n ,
'A b d u r rahman Mursaal had supported a British attempt to disarm them in 191 3
and, not surprisingly, the Marehan still had not forgotten his collabora t i o n .[/quote]

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Gls ... =firefox-a[/quote]

And the article concludes saying the British could not control the territory BECAUSE of Mareexaan and gave it up to the Italians BECAUSE of Mareexaan:

---"The sheikh had come to Jubaland in 1896 as the first representative of the puritanical Salihiyya sufi tariqa, an Islamic brotherhood. In August 1916, the British received intelligence that he was erecting a mosque in Italian territory near the Dawa River, collecting large tithes from the Marehan, and "attempting to emulate the Mullah."---

---"More importantly, this inability to control the Marehan illustrated just how little control the colonial state exercised on the northeast frontier. This example of Somali resistance certainly would make the British think twice about imposing their dictates in the northeast for some years to come. Indeed, the presence of so-called recalcitrant Somalis there had much to do with the nature of the cession of Jubaland to Italy in 1925."---


Go put a sock it dhoocilayoow..!


Wabeey-boy, my history is such that I forced the largest empire at that time to surrender the territory and give it up while you turned around and leaned forward...!

[sadeboi]

Lol, The mj kid, qaraar bu ku heeyo.

Forget one source there are numerous books, I think every book written about Somalia and colonialism included majeertaan being concubines and supporters of gaalo. No need to even debate about that.

As for abdirixmaan mursal lol, I buried that long time ago. As it was proven that he was a concubine of the British after they used him and abused him he decided to attack them, before that he supported them in fighting Marexaan and what not. Do not fool with me kids when it pertains to history especially the noble and patriotic history of my SADE forefathers. No somalinet member has made accusations about us and dared to speak bring it up again. It might kill you out of envy, but our history is unreachable.

Wabeey boy, typical, just like your wacdaan cousins, just like your clan today in villa somalia, you will always, ALWAYS, be a follower with nothing to show for.

[Rebel-Lion]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"][quote="Rebel-Lion"]twisted logic

Beesha Sade are good people, but the kids like bi polar voltage here are giving them a bad image.[/quote]

I agree man. These kind of deluded people make you hate an entire clan because of their stupidity.[/quote]

It's a waste of time man, this bi polar voltage kid thinks people take him seriously. Let him waste he's energy on he own deluded bullshit.

[Voltage]

[quote="Rebel-Lion"][quote="Twisted_Logic"][quote="Rebel-Lion"]twisted logic

Beesha Sade are good people, but the kids like bi polar voltage here are giving them a bad image.[/quote]

I agree man. These kind of deluded people make you hate an entire clan because of their stupidity.[/quote]

It's a waste of time man, this bi polar voltage kid thinks people take him seriously. Let him waste he's energy on he own deluded bullshit.[/quote]


Next time you wish to engage me, cover your azz.

Even in that same Robert Hess book we are talking about, it talks extensively about your prostitution to the Italians that both Somaliweyn and Twisted_Logic have seen if they really saw the book. But no surprise there and would be a waste of my time to photocopy...I mean after all is that news worthy? What would be mentionable is to read you never prostituted yourself, which will never ever be read in Somali history.

[Transformer]

Voltage, I doubt you even read the whole link you proved here:

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Gls ... =firefox-a

...Sxb, if you scroll down to page 19 this is what it reads:

"Aware of Marehan hostilities with the Aulihan, Barrett still
thought the Marehan unreliable allies, and proposed that the British go it alone
against the rebels.

It is significant to recognize that Barrett later changed his
mind, and decided to take help where he could get it. In October, the colonel
secretly ordered the Reer Farah Ogas section of the clan to send men to free his
askaris from tending captured stock during operations against the Aulihan.

Thus, 800 Marehan would accompany the punitive expedition that defeated the
northern Aulihan."


Thus, this only proves Rebel-Lion point since all the prove you need is right there on page 19 in the above link.

[Voltage]

[quote="Transformer"]
Thus, this only proves Rebel-Lion point since all the prove you need is right there on page 19 in the above link.[/quote]


Transformer, this is what you get when you don't read what you are supposed to be responding to.

None of us denied that the Marehan supported the British disarmaments of Abdirahman Mursaal. None of did. However, WHY did they is the question?

This is because the first people to try to be disarmed were Mareexaan and the biggest supporters of this was Abdirahman Mursaal and his Cawlyahan. Again, this is what the exact link says:

---"To take the case of the Mare h a n ,
'A b d u r rahman Mursaal had supported a British attempt to disarm them in 191 3
and, not surprisingly, the Marehan still had not forgotten his collabora t i o n ."---

Abdirahman Mursaal and the Cawlyaan did this so they could see a powerless Mareexaan that was not a threat to them..why should then we have supported them...infact we had every right to led the British war against them since they did that to us..!


STILL, the article makes no mistake and says apart from this SPECIFIC event involving the Cawlyahan, it was because of the Mareexaan that the British washed their hands of off all Jubbaland and gave it to the Italians to worry about:

---"The sheikh had come to Jubaland in 1896 as the first representative of the puritanical Salihiyya sufi tariqa, an Islamic brotherhood. In August 1916, the British received intelligence that he was erecting a mosque in Italian territory near the Dawa River, collecting large tithes from the Marehan, and "attempting to emulate the Mullah."---

---"More importantly, this inability to control the Marehan illustrated just how little control the colonial state exercised on the northeast frontier. This example of Somali resistance certainly would make the British think twice about imposing their dictates in the northeast for some years to come. Indeed, the presence of so-called recalcitrant Somalis there had much to do with the nature of the cession of Jubaland to Italy in 1925."---

There is already a very extensive 10-page debate about this document inwhich all possible questions and concerns about the document have been answered, with the same conclusion as any new discussion will be...have a ball with it:

>http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=118115&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=mursal&start=15

[Twisted_Logic]

Rebel-lion,

I think you said it best. Let the kid play with his toys. who are we to bother him?

[Voltage]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"]Rebel-lion,

I think you said it best. Let the kid play with his toys. who are we to bother him?[/quote]


The stench of defeat...!

[Rebel-Lion]

Twisted logic

lol true say, but it's kind of fun playing with he's many personalties. He has been karbaashed beyond belief, I would't be suprised if he commits suicide at this point.