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About Warfare In Today's World...

Postby Murax » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:53 pm

The only rebel groups I've seen that fought a orginized resistance was Hizbollah, EPLF (Eritrea), RPF (Rwandan Patriotic Front) Talebaan (Russians) perhaps. These people took it to the foreign powers mano o mano like Men outside the main cities and civilians were not DELIBRITELY put in harms way as happens in Xamar, Baghdad etc. Hizbollah is a different case because they fought the Israilis face to face outside in the wilderness in bunkers but Israeil still bombarded Beirut cowardly after getting raped by Hizbollah on the battlefield. Ditto with RPF in Rwanda as the Hutus started killing the Tutsi's even though the Tutsi army was closing in on the capitol.


So the question is what is "resistance" if theres absolutely no consideration for civilian's lives? I understand that there will still be reprisals against civilians anyway but it would be much less then when motars, shells are fired from dumar waayels house's.

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Postby AbdiWahab252 » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:58 pm

Murax,

Hezbollah would fire from inside civilian areas during their war. The IDF would have finished them off if they were out in the open field.

Fighting inside urban settlements reduces the advantage enjoyed by the superior force as it involves close range combat.

Cities have always been fought over in every conflict. No one goes out into the field like the old days to fight it out. Fighting is done to capture cities not dusty hills.

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Postby MJ-Pride » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:09 pm

This gorilla war thats employed by Hawiye is futile and won' get them nowere. They are restricted to assassinating defenseless low key officials.


What a weak motherfckers

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Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:19 pm

Guerrilla warfare is hiding,attack then vanish like ghosts.
What idiot will come in open field and attack a army? That is suicide.

You can only come in open field when we talk about Army vs Army.

Taliban,Hezbullah and all other Guerrilla groups uses populated city or mountanious region. There are no mountains like that of afghanistan,turkey and north-iraq in somalia.

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Postby GENERAL_SNM » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:34 pm

My undertstanging is that the fighters and the civillians are one.The fighters would have no support base if the civillian population was against the resistence.Also I dont think the occupiers care if they kill any civillians,since they have concluded that their is no difference between the civillians and the fighters.This fight in xammer cant/wont be won on the battlefield,instead it will be won through nagotiations.Look at Iraq,the biggest army in the world cant get out of the green zone and being antiwar has become a winning campign formula.The ethoipians will reach the same conclusion soon and cut and run,all it needs is for Obama to pull the troops out of baghdad and bobs your uncle,the ethoipians will be gone.

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Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:06 pm

The Taliban did not fight the Soviets, it was the Mujahideen, who were mostly non-Pashtun minorities with some Arab mercenaries. The Taliban was formed in 1996 and is made up of Pashtun tribesmen, some of whom served in the Soviet-Afghan war. The Northern Alliance (coalition of Islamic/Tribal militant groups) is where the majority of the old Mujahideen serve. But today, the Northern Alliance is nothing but a tribal organization, same with Taliban, although Taliban has larger designs for Afghanistan and the region because they are table to produce a larger support base, especially because they represent Pashtun interests (half of Afghan population).

As far as tactics go, there are no limits for any militia group, whether they are rebel or government. Saddam Hussein deliberately attacked within Kurdish towns and even took the battle to the streets when the Shia later attempted to rebel. The SNA did the same in Northern Somalia, and so did the USC. There are no morals in war, its a savage act, don't put any kind of limit on it, there are none.


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