Siad Barre, the most important somali in 20 century

[luis1]

I would like to talk to somalians about Siad Barre and his life,I want to know his victories and his defeats.

I want to know the man and the politician,the man who tried to create the Greater Somalia and the militar who almost defeated Ethiopia.


http://www.netnomad.com/barregrnfldobit.html

[Dhiig_Waraabe]

We are known as Somalis
Ethiopia was defeated and it was only question of time before Addis would have been taken.

soviet interference it was saved the Dergen

[Gen.Aideed]

You fock with Hawiye and HabarGidir, this is your fate. He died a sorry death.


"Although treated well by the Nigerian authorities, the fallen dictator was paid scant respect by the average Nigerian, and his home was robbed more than once. Unable to the end to accept responsibility for the famine and anarchy which has accompanied thesuccession struggle in Somalia, Siad died a frustrated and embittered man.

Siad was born in Shiilaabo, in the Ogaden area of Abyssinian Somaliland, now the Ethopian province of Haraghe, in about 1910. Siad's exact age has long been kept a state secret. His mother was Ogadeen and his father, who died when Siad was very young, was from the Marehan clan with which Siad more closely identified himself. As is still the custom, he was given a nickname by his fellow herdboys, ''Afweyne'' or ''Mighty Mouth'', which stuck with him for the rest of his life, despite subsequent efforts by sycophantic presidential aides to create alternatives, such as ''Father of Wisdom''."

[Twisted_Logic]

Gen.Aideed,

This actually the most damning part of the whole orbituary:

"On the evening of 26 January 1991 Mohamed Siad Barre was forced by opponents of his regime to flee Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia, for his clan homelands. He did not give up his ambition of recapturing the city for many months, but, confronted by a vengeful Somali militia, and alarmed by disagreements between his own family and supporters, Siad eventually fled to Kenya. It was the end of his 22-year rule in Somalia, which had started as Socialist experimentation and degenerated into dictatorship."

"Meantime, greedy relatives and hangers-on occupied themselves by securing ever more uneconomic loans, foreign exchange advances and unfulfilled contracts. They poached and destroyed wild fauna on a prodigious scale, not only in Somalia but across her borders in Ethiopia and particularly Kenya. The trade in ivory was so vast and profitable that Siad's own family became deeply involved. Siad himself was not, however, much interested in amassing personal wealth, but he could be vindictive to anyone who opposed any member of his wider family.

The majority of the people had never been much impressed by the pomp and circumstance of state occasions. Despite popular toleration of gymnastic displays and spurious cultural shows, the ever popular traditional poets had as often as not paid scant respect for ''Afweyne''. But the machine- gunning of herds of domestic animals and the poisoning of wells was totally alien. Thus Siad's secret policies of divide and rule broke down. At home he simply ran out of clans. The Ogadeen, the Hawiya and even the heretofore quiet Rahanweyn deserted him. Abroad too - China, Libya, South Africa and (regrettably) Italy apart - he ran out of allies. Despite the natural timidity of the Department of State (its human rights desk quite excepted) the Congress was adamant: no human rights: no aid.

As 1990 drew to a close, angry rebels infiltrated the Somali capital to confront the heavily armed presidential guard (the red berets) drawn to a man from Siad's own Marehan clan.

Confronted by guerrilla groups and rebellious clans - the Majeerteen, Siad found that it was in fact the Somali peoples' God-fearing love of freedom and what has been aptly termed a culture of pastoral democracy, that brought him to the road's end. He dispatched most of his relatives to enjoy their often ill-gotten gains in their villas abroad, himself taking refuge in a bunker close by the capital's airport and the coral coastline of the Indian Ocean; the prelude to his last days in power. 'Mighty Mouth': over 20 years' rule, Siad led Somalia from Socialist experiment to dictatorship."

Now you will have these marehan robots come and defend the old pyschpathic-lunatic.

[xoogSADE14]

^ Markaasoo kaleey afka furataa sidii love inta la wasay lacagtii loo diiday. Dameer dameer dhalay oo ab ka ab boyaaso iyo xamaali ku abtirsadaad tahay.

[Gen.Aideed]

loool Twisted, you have the German genes, checking every little detail of something.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Gen.Aideed"]loool Twisted, you have the German genes, checking every little detail of something.[/quote]

This xoogsade kid who claims to be 40 years old, is actually a pigeon hole with the brain of a 5 year old. He can't do better then moan like a little girl.

[Boqor__Daarod]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"]Gen.Aideed,

This actually the most damning part of the whole orbituary:

"On the evening of 26 January 1991 Mohamed Siad Barre was forced by opponents of his regime to flee Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia, for his clan homelands. He did not give up his ambition of recapturing the city for many months, but, confronted by a vengeful Somali militia, and alarmed by disagreements between his own family and supporters, Siad eventually fled to Kenya. It was the end of his 22-year rule in Somalia, which had started as Socialist experimentation and degenerated into dictatorship."

"Meantime, greedy relatives and hangers-on occupied themselves by securing ever more uneconomic loans, foreign exchange advances and unfulfilled contracts. They poached and destroyed wild fauna on a prodigious scale, not only in Somalia but across her borders in Ethiopia and particularly Kenya. The trade in ivory was so vast and profitable that Siad's own family became deeply involved. Siad himself was not, however, much interested in amassing personal wealth, but he could be vindictive to anyone who opposed any member of his wider family.

The majority of the people had never been much impressed by the pomp and circumstance of state occasions. Despite popular toleration of gymnastic displays and spurious cultural shows, the ever popular traditional poets had as often as not paid scant respect for ''Afweyne''. But the machine- gunning of herds of domestic animals and the poisoning of wells was totally alien. Thus Siad's secret policies of divide and rule broke down. At home he simply ran out of clans. The Ogadeen, the Hawiya and even the heretofore quiet Rahanweyn deserted him. Abroad too - China, Libya, South Africa and (regrettably) Italy apart - he ran out of allies. Despite the natural timidity of the Department of State (its human rights desk quite excepted) the Congress was adamant: no human rights: no aid.

As 1990 drew to a close, angry rebels infiltrated the Somali capital to confront the heavily armed presidential guard (the red berets) drawn to a man from Siad's own Marehan clan.

Confronted by guerrilla groups and rebellious clans - the Majeerteen, Siad found that it was in fact the Somali peoples' God-fearing love of freedom and what has been aptly termed a culture of pastoral democracy, that brought him to the road's end. He dispatched most of his relatives to enjoy their often ill-gotten gains in their villas abroad, himself taking refuge in a bunker close by the capital's airport and the coral coastline of the Indian Ocean; the prelude to his last days in power. 'Mighty Mouth': over 20 years' rule, Siad led Somalia from Socialist experiment to dictatorship."

Now you will have these marehan robots come and defend the old pyschpathic-lunatic.[/quote]


were are the very same people that overtrew siyad berra today?

some are the lapdogs of abduillahi yusuf and others killed in wars.

today ask yourself what do you have?

[Murax]

Twisted,


Sxb leave the bitterness You have for Voltage, SB in the thread concerning the debate as it looks like You're seething.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Murax"]Twisted,


Sxb leave the bitterness You have for Voltage, SB in the thread concerning the debate as it looks like You're seething.[/quote]

you are a funny creature Murax. Who is running around creating multiple threads just to escape from the thread your marehan kids got massacred?

[Rebel-Lion]

Important? Yes, there a many lessons to be learned from he's failed regime. But AUN to the man, it's not good to insult the man because of cyber kids with personality disorders.

[kadarre]

Leave the man be. Isn't already humuliating that he died on the other side of the continent.

[Goljano Lion]

[quote="kadarre"]Leave the man be. Isn't already humuliating that he died on the other side of the continent.[/quote]

He died like a homeless dameer some where in Nigeria........................priceless

[Murax]

[quote="kadarre"]Leave the man be. Isn't already humuliating that he died on the other side of the continent.[/quote]



Whats humiliating is being a dameer that makes tens of thousands of other dameers and a million assorted Hutus homeless just at the beckoning of Afbijo, lol...

[kadarre]

eheh did i hit a nerve. :0