MURDER MURDER MOST FOUL IN SOMALINET!

[Rebel-Lion]

[quote="Transformer"]Voltage, I doubt you even read the whole link you proved here:

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Gls ... =firefox-a

...Sxb, if you scroll down to page 19 this is what it reads:

"Aware of Marehan hostilities with the Aulihan, Barrett still
thought the Marehan unreliable allies, and proposed that the British go it alone
against the rebels.

It is significant to recognize that Barrett later changed his
mind, and decided to take help where he could get it. In October, the colonel
secretly ordered the Reer Farah Ogas section of the clan to send men to free his
askaris from tending captured stock during operations against the Aulihan.

Thus, 800 Marehan would accompany the punitive expedition that defeated the
northern Aulihan."


Thus, this only proves Rebel-Lion point since all the prove you need is right there on page 19 in the above link.[/quote]

[Voltage]

[quote="Transformer"]
Thus, this only proves Rebel-Lion point since all the prove you need is right there on page 19 in the above link.[/quote]


Transformer, this is what you get when you don't read what you are supposed to be responding to.

None of us denied that the Marehan supported the British disarmaments of Abdirahman Mursaal. None of did. However, WHY did they is the question?

This is because the first people to try to be disarmed were Mareexaan and the biggest supporters of this was Abdirahman Mursaal and his Cawlyahan. Again, this is what the exact link says:

---"To take the case of the Mare h a n ,
'A b d u r rahman Mursaal had supported a British attempt to disarm them in 191 3
and, not surprisingly, the Marehan still had not forgotten his collabora t i o n ."---

Abdirahman Mursaal and the Cawlyaan did this so they could see a powerless Mareexaan that was not a threat to them..why should then we have supported them...infact we had every right to led the British war against them since they did that to us..!


STILL, the article makes no mistake and says apart from this SPECIFIC event involving the Cawlyahan, it was because of the Mareexaan that the British washed their hands of off all Jubbaland and gave it to the Italians to worry about:

---"The sheikh had come to Jubaland in 1896 as the first representative of the puritanical Salihiyya sufi tariqa, an Islamic brotherhood. In August 1916, the British received intelligence that he was erecting a mosque in Italian territory near the Dawa River, collecting large tithes from the Marehan, and "attempting to emulate the Mullah."---

---"More importantly, this inability to control the Marehan illustrated just how little control the colonial state exercised on the northeast frontier. This example of Somali resistance certainly would make the British think twice about imposing their dictates in the northeast for some years to come. Indeed, the presence of so-called recalcitrant Somalis there had much to do with the nature of the cession of Jubaland to Italy in 1925."---

There is already a very extensive 10-page debate about this document inwhich all possible questions and concerns about the document have been answered, with the same conclusion as any new discussion will be...have a ball with it:

>http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=118115&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=mursal&start=15

[Voltage]

The response in the thread in which Caasho-Rebel herself was molested.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=153763&start=75

[Rebel-Lion]

Bi polar voltage

You've been embarassed far enough sxb, go retreat and sleep n your mother basement. There has been murder most foul on somalinet.

[Voltage]

[quote="Rebel-Lion"]Bi polar voltage

You've been embarassed far enough sxb, go retreat and sleep n your mother basement. There has been murder most foul on somalinet.[/quote]


Sounds like a fruity guy being molested in Jail all the while screaming "I am hitting it".

[Rebel-Lion]

is that so? LOL.

I'm giving you an exist to leave with some dignity left, take it.

[Advo]

voltage war caasho caadey beey kuu jaceshahey..........there's no other way to put it.

[MJ-Pride]

Almost every clan, throughout their history has participated with Italians and fought with them at the same time. Let the history be history and talk about the present

[Twisted_Logic]

Rebel-Lion,

Voltage wants you to take the same people who were petitioning the English to allow them to fight alongside them against "EVIL GERMANS" as some sort of heroes and patriots. He is quite deluded

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Jubbaland Chiefs send Plea to england to join Army.


London, Nov.10- The London Times has received froma correspondent a copy of a petition signed by the principal Somali chiefs in Jubbaland, asking that they allowed to fight for England. The document is as follows:

To His Highness the Governor.Through the hakim of Jubbaland. Salaams, yea, many salaams, with god's mercy, blessing, and peace. After salaams.

We, the Somali of Jubbaland, both Herti and Ogaden, comprising all the tribes but not including the Tulamuya Ogaden who live in Biskaya and Tanaland and the Marehan, DESIRE HUMBLY to address out.

In the former days of the Somali have fought against the government. Even lately the Marehan have fought against the government. Now, we have heard that the German Government have declared a war on the English Government. Behold, our "fitna" against the English Government is finished. As the monsoon wind drives the sand hills of our coast into new forms, so does this news of Germans evil-doing drive our hearts and spears into service of the English Government. The Jubbaland Somali are with the English Government. DAILY IN OUR MOSQUES WE PRAY FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE ENGLISH ARMIES. DAY IS OUR NIGHT AND NIGHT IS OUR DAY WITH US UNTIL WE HEAR THAT THE ENGLISH ARE VICTORIOUS. GOD KNOWS THE RIGHT. HE WILL HELP THE RIGHT. We have heard the English Askaris have been sent to fight for us in Europe. HUMBLY WE ASK WHY NOT THE SOMALI FIGHT FOR ENGLAN ALSO. WE BEG THE GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW OUR WARRIORS TO SHOW THEIR LOYALTY. In former days the Somali tribes made fitna against each other. Evan now it is so: it is our custom; yet with the GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE GERMANS WE ARE AS ONE OURSELVES, OUR WARRIORS, OUR WOMEN, AND OUR CHILDREN. BY GOD IT IS SO. BY GOD IT IS SO.

A FEW DAYS AGO MANY TROOPS OF THE MILITARY LEFT THIS COUNTRY TO EAT UP GERMANS WHO HAVE INVADED OUR COUNTRY IN AFRICA. MAY GOD PROSPER THEM. YET, OH HAKIM, WITH ALL HUMBLENESS WE DESIRE TO BEG OF THE GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW OUR SONS AND WARRIORS TO TAKE PART OF THIS GREAT WAR AGAINST THE GERMAN EVIL-DOERS. THEY ARE READY. THEY ARE ANGER. GRANT THEM THE BOON. GOD AND MAHOMED IS WITH US ALL.

IF GOVERNMENT WISH TO TAKE AWAY ALL THE TROOPS AND POLICE FROM JUBBALAND, IT IS GOOD. WE PLEDGE TO ACT AS TRUE GOVERNMENT ASKARIS UNTIL THEY RETURN.

WE HUMBLY BEG THAT THIS OUR LETTER BE PLACED AT THE FEET OF OUR KING AND EMPEROR, WHO LIVES IN ENGLAND, IN TOKEN OF OUR LOYALTY AND OUR PRAYER."

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[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="MJ-Pride"]Almost every clan, throughout their history has participated with Italians and fought with them at the same time. Let the history be history and talk about the present[/quote]

This has been our stance all along. There are good and bad apples within every society. But these deluded sade kids would have you believe that only Marehan "fought' against the british when the truth is that they were busy fighting with Somali clans who were in fact fighting the colonizers. I have problem with people who criticize clans who actually fought against the colonizers and rant about clans who were licking up to the colonizers as some sort of heroes and patriots. It is quite delusional no matter how one looks at it.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Voltage"]The response in the thread in which Caasho-Rebel herself was molested.

http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopi ... 3&start=75[/quote]

IF you are confident of your case, why not argue against right here? Your twisted and deluded history doesn't fly in the company of grown-ups.

[Shirib]

[quote="MJ-Pride"]Almost every clan, throughout their history has participated with Italians and fought with them at the same time. Let the history be history and talk about the present[/quote]

Somalia was colonized, so everyone submitted at one point or another. It makes sense that the ones who are attacked first, submit first.

[Voltage]

[quote="Advo"]voltage war caasho caadey beey kuu jaceshahey..........there's no other way to put it.[/quote]


Caasho-Cadeey lama yiraahdo, waa bahal bisad indho-gamuuran ka foolxun, call her "Caasho-Xuux" Lolz

[sadeboi]

"We, the Somali of Jubbaland, both Herti and Ogaden, comprising all the tribes but not including the Tulamuya Ogaden who live in Biskaya and Tanaland and the Marehan, DESIRE HUMBLY to address out."

Wabeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey.

CAN YOU NOT READ?


"COMPRISING ALL THE TRIBES BUT NOT INCLUDING THE TULAMUYA OGADEN WHO LIVE IN BISKAYA AND TANALAND AND THE MAREHAN."

DYSLEXIC WALLE.

Marexaans never submitted, nor where their lands every under control of colonialist.

[Rebel-Lion]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"]Rebel-Lion,

Voltage wants you to take the same people who were petitioning the English to allow them to fight alongside them against "EVIL GERMANS" as some sort of heroes and patriots. He is quite deluded

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Jubbaland Chiefs send Plea to england to join Army.


London, Nov.10- The London Times has received froma correspondent a copy of a petition signed by the principal Somali chiefs in Jubbaland, asking that they allowed to fight for England. The document is as follows:

To His Highness the Governor.Through the hakim of Jubbaland. Salaams, yea, many salaams, with god's mercy, blessing, and peace. After salaams.

We, the Somali of Jubbaland, both Herti and Ogaden, comprising all the tribes but not including the Tulamuya Ogaden who live in Biskaya and Tanaland and the Marehan, DESIRE HUMBLY to address out.

In the former days of the Somali have fought against the government. Even lately the Marehan have fought against the government. Now, we have heard that the German Government have declared a war on the English Government. Behold, our "fitna" against the English Government is finished. As the monsoon wind drives the sand hills of our coast into new forms, so does this news of Germans evil-doing drive our hearts and spears into service of the English Government. The Jubbaland Somali are with the English Government. DAILY IN OUR MOSQUES WE PRAY FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE ENGLISH ARMIES. DAY IS OUR NIGHT AND NIGHT IS OUR DAY WITH US UNTIL WE HEAR THAT THE ENGLISH ARE VICTORIOUS. GOD KNOWS THE RIGHT. HE WILL HELP THE RIGHT. We have heard the English Askaris have been sent to fight for us in Europe. HUMBLY WE ASK WHY NOT THE SOMALI FIGHT FOR ENGLAN ALSO. WE BEG THE GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW OUR WARRIORS TO SHOW THEIR LOYALTY. In former days the Somali tribes made fitna against each other. Evan now it is so: it is our custom; yet with the GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE GERMANS WE ARE AS ONE OURSELVES, OUR WARRIORS, OUR WOMEN, AND OUR CHILDREN. BY GOD IT IS SO. BY GOD IT IS SO.

A FEW DAYS AGO MANY TROOPS OF THE MILITARY LEFT THIS COUNTRY TO EAT UP GERMANS WHO HAVE INVADED OUR COUNTRY IN AFRICA. MAY GOD PROSPER THEM. YET, OH HAKIM, WITH ALL HUMBLENESS WE DESIRE TO BEG OF THE GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW OUR SONS AND WARRIORS TO TAKE PART OF THIS GREAT WAR AGAINST THE GERMAN EVIL-DOERS. THEY ARE READY. THEY ARE ANGER. GRANT THEM THE BOON. GOD AND MAHOMED IS WITH US ALL.

IF GOVERNMENT WISH TO TAKE AWAY ALL THE TROOPS AND POLICE FROM JUBBALAND, IT IS GOOD. WE PLEDGE TO ACT AS TRUE GOVERNMENT ASKARIS UNTIL THEY RETURN.

WE HUMBLY BEG THAT THIS OUR LETTER BE PLACED AT THE FEET OF OUR KING AND EMPEROR, WHO LIVES IN ENGLAND, IN TOKEN OF OUR LOYALTY AND OUR PRAYER."

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Well, I don't know how bi polar voltage plans to wiggle and squeal out of this one.

MJ-Pride

That's the main point, every clan has it's share of skeletons under the closet but according to out qule freinds especially bi polar voltage, marehan is special and has never worked with the colonial regimes. When it has been proven time and time again that they too were very friendly with the british.