Uways al-Barawe

[Grant]

These guys were Sufis. This is a native Somali branch of Islam. 1870s. Definitely not Wahaabia. This is the guy that stopped Christian encroachment in much of East Africa.

http://subsaharansufis.com/index.php?op ... &Itemid=35

[Unclebin-]

What do you know about wahabbi islam? You Kaffirs from the west use this (Wahhabi) as a pejorative knowing that nobody calls themselves wahhabis. Secondly, you want somalis on the bid'ah with their crazy sufi invocations to their dead sufi saints so as to keep them benign from keeping away from the bidah and following from true islam... which would include fighting your crusader people

[Xaaji_Xundjuf]

do not mock the walis of allah

there are walis in says in the kuran they only cant protect you

wama la kum min dunilahi min waliyihin wala nasiir

Sufis

Wahabis and surwaal gaab

[Cawar]

"wama la kum min dunilahi min waliyihin wala nasiir"

Loooooooooooool. Waryaa Xunduf ma fahamsantahay mi3naha aayda??

[Xaaji_Xundjuf]

it means waliis cant protect you and only allah al raxim can

[KlashneFolk]

do not mock the walis of allah

there are walis in says in the kuran they only cant protect you

wama la kum min dunilahi min waliyihin wala nasiir

Sufis

Wahabis and surwaal gaab

@Kurun

[Cawar]

Ok..Myabe I misunderstood the way you put it..but thats right.

[Grant]

Barawe has been a center of Islamic learning in Somalia almost from the very beginning. I posted this because it seems clear that burying Sheiks inside mosques has a long history in this area. Uways was also clearly a significant religious figure whose culture and people must have agreed with the practice. Whatever you want to call them in a religious sense, I am disturbed that his tomb, his thinking, and his accomplishments in the philosophical battle with Christianity in East Africa were so disrespected by the agents of the ICU who held Barawe.

Please see the links to the Prophet's mosque and the ritual for greeting the first three Caliphs I posted in the "Who do you respect" thread.

[Koronto91]

Barawe has been a center of Islamic learning in Somalia almost from the very beginning. I posted this because it seems clear that burying Sheiks inside mosques has a long history in this area. Uways was also clearly a significant religious figure whose culture and people must have agreed with the practice. Whatever you want to call them in a religious sense, I am disturbed that his tomb, his thinking, and his accomplishments in the philosophical battle with Christianity in East Africa were so disrespected by the agents of the ICU who held Barawe.

Please see the links to the Prophet's mosque and the ritual for greeting the first three Caliphs I posted in the "Who do you respect" thread.

No one disrespected Sh. Aweys or his grave. I was born & raised in Marka, my Qur'an teachers used to make yearly "pilgrimage" to Sh. Aweys's burial site and we sometimes accompanied them. We later learned it is a major Shirk to worship, perform pilgrimage or ask for favors from a dead person, regardless of their piety.

Just because people were too ignorant about their religion and thought it was acceptable to bury the dead in the middle of Masjids, doesn't make it Islamicly compatible or acceptable. Sh. Aweys's grave was right in the middle of his Masjid and people prayed to it; a major Shirk. The ICU were within their rights to remove his remains and others from these Masjids and bury them outside as should have been done from the begining. These Sheikhs never asked to be worshipped or for their graves to be made in to shrines, the ICU actually respected them by burying them in a respectable location.

You need to stop with your lies!

[Shirib]

Koronto

Is it haraam to build a mosque on top of a grave or burry someone inside a mosque?

Isn't the nabe SAW burried inside Masjid, Al-Nabiyu in Medina?

[Xaaji_Xundjuf]

afcourse its not haraaam

MASJID IN NAJAF MASJID IN KARBALA IMAM HUSSEIN IMAM ALI
MASJID AL NABAWI IN MEDINA
MASJID AL ISXAAQ IN MAYDH

[Koronto91]

Koronto

Is it haraam to build a mosque on top of a grave or burry someone inside a mosque?

Isn't the nabe SAW burried inside Masjid, Al-Nabiyu in Medina?

Yes, evidence is two hadiths:

Bukhari, "Do not become like the Jews & Christians who have turned the graves of their Prophets in to shrines"

Muslim, "The places it is forbidden to perform Salat include: graveyard, slaughterhouse, middle of the road, on top of the Ka'ba, camel resting places"

The Prophet (saw) was buried in his house, which was next to his Masjid in Madinah, but over the centuries, the Masjid has been expanded, the grave ended up joining part of the Masjid that nobody performs Salat in and nobody prays in that direction.

The dead belong in graveyards, the Masjids belong to the living! Mixing the two is a major sin.

[Shirib]

Koronto

Is it haraam to build a mosque on top of a grave or burry someone inside a mosque?

Isn't the nabe SAW burried inside Masjid, Al-Nabiyu in Medina?

Yes, evidence is two hadiths:

Bukhari, "Do not become like the Jews & Christians who have turned the graves of their Prophets in to shrines"

Muslim, "The places it is forbidden to perform Salat include: graveyard, slaughterhouse, middle of the road, on top of the Ka'ba, camel resting places"

The Prophet (saw) was buried in his house, which was next to his Masjid in Madinah, but over the centuries, the Masjid has been expanded, the grave ended up joining part of the Masjid that nobody performs Salat in and nobody prays in that direction.

The dead belong in graveyards, the Masjids belong to the living! Mixing the two is a major sin.

Jazaka'Allah.

But I thought I once read or heard someone say it was okay to pray at a graveyard because it reminds u of death. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this.

[eternauta]

Whatever you want to call them in a religious sense, I am disturbed that his tomb, his thinking, and his accomplishments in the philosophical battle with Christianity in East Africa were so disrespected by the agents of the ICU who held Barawe.

Are you saying the ICU disrespected his tomb in Barawe? Why are you, a deist, disturbed by it?

[Xaaji_Xundjuf]

afcourse u pray at some one grave marka la aasayo ayaabaad ku tukkanaysayee
that would be haraam if it was realy haraam

2 weeks ago adeerkay baan soo aasay waanu ku dull tukkanay