Scientific theories

[Leila2007]

I was following that Evolution thread and before replying to it it was gone. But what we need to understand about scientific theories is they are wriiten by humun beings. For any one to to do a research project you come up with a topic and read every single thing that has been written and start writting/ formulating a theory then you go out collect evidence and prove what you are saying.

Now any researcher will tell you any every single research is biased as we all have a reason why we are doing it in the first place. So before even starting you already have a conclution but need to prove it.

It is good to read up theories as it will stimulate your mind and make you want to read more but Education is all THEORY. And it is down to us take what we believe in and ignore what we doent think is true or islamic!


Feel free to add your 2 cent folks!

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

A theory backed by testing and thorough calculations is better than a wishful guess.

BTW, the thread is still alive, and I am thoroughly kicking some ass.

[FAH1223]

A theory backed by testing and thorough calculations is better than a wishful guess.

BTW, the thread is still alive, and I am thoroughly kicking some ass.

how do you reconcile it with Islam?

[Boqor__Daarod]

A theory backed by testing and thorough calculations is better than a wishful guess.

BTW, the thread is still alive, and I am thoroughly kicking some ass.

i kicked your ass in the debate.

[Madd_Scientist_]

I was following that Evolution thread and before replying to it it was gone. But what we need to understand about scientific theories is they are wriiten by humun beings. For any one to to do a research project you come up with a topic and read every single thing that has been written and start writting/ formulating a theory then you go out collect evidence and prove what you are saying.

Now any researcher will tell you any every single research is biased as we all have a reason why we are doing it in the first place. So before even starting you already have a conclution but need to prove it.

It is good to read up theories as it will stimulate your mind and make you want to read more but Education is all THEORY. And it is down to us take what we believe in and ignore what we doent think is true or islamic!


Feel free to add your 2 cent folks!

It starts with a theory, but once it's proven it's no longer a theory but a fact.
In research you're conclusion is not always correct, it's a trial and error thing. if there's no money and/or no gain from it the research will not be started.

But yeah, research projects are very interesting, it stimulates your mind and you end up feeling very pleased with yourself once your theory is proven and accepted.

[Xaaji_Xundjuf]

war waxaasii wa caqli bina adan qarax baa dhacay uu duunniida baa isis samaysmay just ba nature
xiidigtyada najm iyo dayaxa soo dhicii laha who controls the univers

read the kuran

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

how do you reconcile it with Islam?

Muslim scholars have claimed that evolution contradicts SOME parts of Islam. But evolution theorists do not say that their theory contradicts any religion, least of all genesis or the quran.

I have been trying to bridge Islam and evolution and much of it has come together pretty well.

I don't think that we should shun evolution, it is, after all, the key to our genetic past, present, and future. The more we study this subject, the closer we get to helping ourselves in this lonely universe of ours.

Evolution is the greatest modern advancement in the study of life, and it reaches far beyond just biology. Take a look into it.

[Leila2007]

"A theory backed by testing and thorough calculations is better than a wishful guess."


Now who is talking about a wishful gues?

I do agree with testing and proving that the theory actually works and it has to be validated. When it comes to things like medicine you need to get it right otherwise you end up killing people and end up in jail.Things like engineering is the same thing. Your calculation of material,structure and everything that is needed to build a bridge for example need to be exact.

But when it come to other theories that you cant necessarily go out there and test then it is down to experts in that field to try and validate and see what you are saying is actually true. I.e if I was to do a PHD about the somali mind and behaviour then I will need an expert in this field to validate my theory for it to be accepted and published in the Journal of Human Behaviour for example!

This is how most reasearches are done and published. So personally for me to actually believe a theory i need to find out more about the researcher and why they did that reasearch to start with and that is why not every single theory / science is necessarily TRUE!

[AbdiWahab252]

Leila,

Isn't religion a theory ?

[Leila2007]

Abdi

I wont say religion is theory. I am not the most educated when it comes to religion but I am knowledge enough to know that the QURAN for explain is authentic and perfect. Religion is way bigger than a theory and encompasses so many theories that are TRUE (QARAN).

I read scientific journals and I can tell from the introductory chapter without even going further where it is heading to!


I willl leave somalinet wadaads to give you a more accurate answers on that one!

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

"A theory backed by testing and thorough calculations is better than a wishful guess."


Now who is talking about a wishful gues?

I do agree with testing and proving that the theory actually works and it has to be validated. When it comes to things like medicine you need to get it right otherwise you end up killing people and end up in jail.Things like engineering is the same thing. Your calculation of material,structure and everything that is needed to build a bridge for example need to be exact.

But when it come to other theories that you cant necessarily go out there and test then it is down to experts in that field to try and validate and see what you are saying is actually true. I.e if I was to do a PHD about the somali mind and behaviour then I will need an expert in this field to validate my theory for it to be accepted and published in the Journal of Human Behaviour for example!

This is how most reasearches are done and published. So personally for me to actually believe a theory i need to find out more about the researcher and why they did that reasearch to start with and that is why not every single theory / science is necessarily TRUE!

Evolution theory is not for the purpose of curing a disease or building a new planet (though it might help), it is simply the study of history through science. Simply.

Evolution is of a greater sentimental value than any other idea or undertaking in human history. Evolution seeks to find our place on Earth, our place in the universe, and to accurately depict all of these placement values with real numbers, words, and photographs that we can all understand.

And who is to say that there is no fact backing evolution? Check out this national geographic article showing that our genes are evolving as we speak.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ution.html

[Leila2007]

What are you some kinda of historian?

Offcourse scientist who belief in evolution will write and prove that it does exist and you will always have scientists that counter that arguement with PROVE!

I am no expert in evolution I am just writting generally about how theories are formulated and why we dont have to be fooled even though this reaserch seem real!

[Shirib]

A few 100 years ago scientist believed that the Earth was flat, and that the universe revolved around earth.

Just food for thought on scientific theories

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

What are you some kinda of historian?

Offcourse scientist who belief in evolution will write and prove that it does exist and you will always have scientists that counter that arguement with PROVE!

I am no expert in evolution I am just writting generally about how theories are formulated and why we dont have to be fooled even though this reaserch seem real!

I'd really like to see facts disproving the core of evolution. Its usually the Christian rightwing religious bunch who want holy war and to keep our minds set on this material world for their profit. This is called "creationism" -- in other words, its a theory given WITHOUT FACTS.


Shirib,

Those were morons in war-torn medieval Europe who got ahead of themselves and they never had any facts or figures for their claims. But modern scientists do have facts and figures.

[ABSAME']

What about Scientific laws, formulas.


Laws are very concrete work that are proven to be true.