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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby Shilling » Wed May 21, 2008 2:28 am

eternauta,

As I mentioned in my other post, the 2004 elections where held fair and square just like the 2000 elections that took place in Djibouti where Abdulkassim Salat Hassan was declared a winner.

That said, for any elections to take place in Somalia there must be law and order which our country lacks still, and since the TFG is a transitional government its whole purpose is to restore some sort of law and order so the Somali people could elected their leaders with out any bullets flying over their heads.

But going with your logic, if as you say this internationally recognized government which AY leads is bogus since it wasn't elected by the people then couldn't the same thing be said about the ICU? Because as I'm aware of the ICU acquired power by creating a militia of 400 committed and well-trained fighters, and by expanding its network and financial support in the business community. Which also later got the needed public support within the Hawiye clans in Mogadishu only after Abdullahi Yusuf was declared the president of the Somali Transitional Federal Government that was created in Kenya at the time. The facts is Yusuf's close association with neighboring Ethiopia, his long-standing past animosity toward certain groups and his lineage identity (the Darood clan-family) all helped to galvanize previously divided Mogadishu constituencies. The Islamists, especially Aweys here, emerged as the principal opposition to Yusuf and the TFG.

This opposition that Aweys leads, by the way, core source of support and top leadership in the movement is heavily concentrated within the Hawiye clan, especially the Haber Gedir Ayr sub-clan. Because as we all witnessed when some the ICU less prominent leaders sought to diversify the movement, they encountered resistance from Haber Gedir Ayr supporters who felt they had shouldered the costs of the Courts' expansion and were entitled to the lion's share of power. This is nothing new, Aways and his cronies were also known to carry a double edge sword in Bosaso under a different group (Al Itahaad it was I'm not sure) when they were in power, it was for this reason that AY pull the plugs on them there when residents there gave him the needed support.

The fact is Somalia is divided at the moment, the TFG sits under Ethiopia and the ICU sits under another Christian country, Eretria. In all honesty neither one of them is fighting for Islam or Somalia for that matter, don't get me wrong their are those that are fight for a good cause but we all know they have no power in this other then taking part in battle. You want the truth? I'm not against Islam the people I'm against are the ones using Islam to further a cause that has already divided us, yesterday it was other name they were using to cut my head off and today when all cards seem to have run out on them they put on the Islamist name. We have government in place, sure it needs fixing, but lets not lie to each other and pull the plug's on it too only to back track and start from square one all over again. You might not like AY or what he stands for just as I don't like Aways and what he stands for, but I don't see the point of crying out fake jihad when those you sympathize with are sitting under anther Christian country only to hijack our capital so they could plot more the then just the demise of the TFG.

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby Shirib » Wed May 21, 2008 2:31 am

TFG :down:
Asmara Group :|
The Youth :up: :up:

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby Shirib » Wed May 21, 2008 2:39 am

Abdullahi Yuuusuf kabo ka waa ween oo soo gashdi

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby Shilling » Wed May 21, 2008 2:44 am

Shirib wrote:TFG :down:
Asmara Group :|
The Youth :up: :up:


Image

Some youth; shirib all this youth struggle will amount to is a mourning mother, in America we have Social security, that 10 year-old you see in that pic is some mothers social security when she grows old...Lets not drive the already suffering mother in Somalia son less for some old fart sitting in Asmara agenda sxb.

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby The_Emperior5 » Wed May 21, 2008 6:11 am

inkaarqabbe , the hawiye walords wher just dumb electin inkaarqabbe, they thought he would not karbaash them with xabashi troops :lol:
and even got the blessing from bush him self

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby zackabdul » Wed May 21, 2008 1:09 pm

Shilling,

ma Majerten baad tahay?

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby King-of-Awdal » Wed May 21, 2008 1:11 pm

zackabdul wrote:Shilling,

ma Majerten baad tahay?



Duh who else other than ur brothers and sisters in here Love Zenwai. :lol:

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby gemini07 » Wed May 21, 2008 1:13 pm

^

who is this doofaar, indha'adkaa

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby zackabdul » Wed May 21, 2008 1:13 pm

Awdal,

I don't even think this guy is Somali, let alone Majerten.

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed May 21, 2008 1:14 pm

Is this supposed to be a joke?? did you vote for TFG kuye :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby MJ-Pride » Wed May 21, 2008 1:16 pm

Enlightened~Sista wrote:Is this supposed to be a joke?? did you vote for TFG kuye :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Enlightened, do you know what TFG stands for? We all know you learned Somali politics in Somalinet. I only cool with you cuz your mom is Majerten :up:

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby gemini07 » Wed May 21, 2008 1:18 pm

mj-pride

how r u?

xagee ka baxday ayaantaan? :lol:

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby King-of-Awdal » Wed May 21, 2008 1:18 pm

zackabdul wrote:Awdal,

I don't even think this guy is Somali, let alone Majerten.


Since when did Majerten become Somali. As far as am aware they are Arabs from Yemen. :lol:

gemini07

Who are u suppose to be? :arrow:

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby zackabdul » Wed May 21, 2008 1:20 pm

E-Sistas mother is Majerten? :lol:

No wonder she loves Somalia. :somalia:

Btw, there should be a Majerten man coming to ask for your hand in marriage. We don't give our women away without getting anything back. Your mom was a gift, and you shall be a gift to us. :up:

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Re: Did You Vote for the TFG in 2004?

Postby ModerateMuslim » Wed May 21, 2008 1:21 pm

:o i did :!: :cry: :cry:


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