June 26th, June 27th, July 1st.....

Cali_Gaab · Postby **Cali_Gaab** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:09 am

What do you celebrate dee, i really don't get it.
This is not the time to celebrate while another third world country's flag is raised high in your capital.

You celebrate the day you raised up the somali flag but the somali flag bears no meaning or value at this day and age.
Even the term somali today means just that, somali and Somalia is not the same Somalia as when the flag was raised high.

People attend the 1st of July event as just another excuse to rave.

Postby **FAH1223** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:27 am

Cali_Gaab wrote:What do you celebrate dee, i really don't get it.
This is not the time to celebrate while another third world country's flag is raised high in your capital.

You celebrate the day you raised up the somali flag but the somali flag bears no meaning or value at this day and age.
Even the term somali today means just that, somali and Somalia is not the same Somalia as when the flag was raised high.

People attend the 1st of July event as just another excuse to rave.

WELL, it still has value to a lot of people who knew it back then and thats why they still celebrate it. Why shouldn't people commemorate the founding fathers and the past on the date when the colonials left and self determination was acheved? We always talk about the stupd bullshid civil war, clan politics, warlords of the past 20 years...why no talk about the positives? I don't get why people have to be draped in the negativty of only one part of our history.

Anyway read the article

Some may argue that it is inappropriate to celebrate in the current sad times being experienced by the Somali nation, especially when a lot of Somali blood is being spilt and the county is going through difficult and challenging times. While this may be true, I would like to remind ourselves of the brave words of President Sharmarke "We will fight the Ethiopian colonialists with one hand, and vote with the other" in response to a question asked to the possibility of going to war and holding an election at the same time. We can celebrate important days in our lives and tackle difficult issues at the same time. C'est la Vie

kambuli, go ahead and tell her... :lol:

Firefly · Postby **Firefly** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:31 am

July 1st is my birthday! I don't celebrate anything (except for the 2 Eids) What exactly do people do to celebrate Somalia day?

Postby **FAH1223** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:35 am

Firefly wrote:July 1st is my birthday! I don't celebrate anything (except for the 2 Eids) What exactly do people do to celebrate Somalia day?

Some people just have get togethers, picnics....this weekend we have a basketball tournament

its summer so its caadi i guess :lol:

Firefly · Postby **Firefly** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:38 am

FAH1223 wrote:
Firefly wrote:July 1st is my birthday! I don't celebrate anything (except for the 2 Eids) What exactly do people do to celebrate Somalia day?

Some people just have get togethers, picnics....this weekend we have a basketball tournament

its summer so its caadi i guess

Hmm okay, there isn't much harm in having picnics & a get together, but is it allowed in Islam to celebrate such occasions walaal?

HoneY*GyalL · Postby **HoneY*GyalL** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:40 am

Jeez louise who said u have to celebrate this day? It is just an important date that shouldnt be forgotten. Most kids my age dont even know anything about 1st of July..all they know what parties there are in lndn that night.

I will take my little couzins out to central on that day
somalia hanoolato :somalia:

Alchemist · Postby **Alchemist** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:41 am

Firefly are you a salafi

kambuli · Postby **kambuli** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:41 am

Cali_gab,

The struggle for power, the greed for power, the few honest Somali Nationalists and the dream of those countries who want to take over the land of no people of conciousness...Should not stop you from celebrating your June 26 and July 1st...Never give up :up:

Firefly · Postby **Firefly** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:43 am

Alchemist wrote:Firefly are you a salafi

Don't tell Gifted, please.

precious_dyme · Postby **precious_dyme** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:45 am

FAH1223 wrote:
Cali_Gaab wrote:What do you celebrate dee, i really don't get it.
This is not the time to celebrate while another third world country's flag is raised high in your capital.

You celebrate the day you raised up the somali flag but the somali flag bears no meaning or value at this day and age.
Even the term somali today means just that, somali and Somalia is not the same Somalia as when the flag was raised high.

People attend the 1st of July event as just another excuse to rave.

WELL, it still has value to a lot of people who knew it back then and thats why they still celebrate it. Why shouldn't people commemorate the founding fathers and the past on the date when the colonials left and self determination was acheved? We always talk about the stupd bullshid civil war, clan politics, warlords of the past 20 years...why no talk about the positives? I don't get why people have to be draped in the negativty of only one part of our history.

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Well said bro...

Caligaab is bitter cuz Somaliland is not regocnised.. :mrgreen:

SOMALIA HA NOOLATO! :somalia:

Alchemist · Postby **Alchemist** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:47 am

Firefly wrote:
Alchemist wrote:Firefly are you a salafi

Don't tell Gifted, please.

you were hiding all along. :lol:

.... dont worry i wont

Postby **FAH1223** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:50 am

Firefly wrote:

Hmm okay, there isn't much harm in having picnics & a get together, but is it allowed in Islam to celebrate such occasions walaal?

Its not so much as celebrate like Eid, just remembering the day that are country was granted its freedom from the Euros and what not, its also good for our somali community to come together for an afternoon.... one of the Imams at the local masajid who is Somali came to speak last year...

Cause technically in Islam are only to have two big celebrations, this is nothing like Eid :mrgreen:

Firefly · Postby **Firefly** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:56 am

FAH1223 wrote:
Firefly wrote:

Hmm okay, there isn't much harm in having picnics & a get together, but is it allowed in Islam to celebrate such occasions walaal?

Its not so much as celebrate like Eid, just remembering the day that are country was granted its freedom from the Euros and what not, its also good for our somali community to come together for an afternoon.... one of the Imams at the local masajid who is Somali came to speak last year...

Cause technically in Islam are only to have two big celebrations, this is nothing like Eid

Okay thanks walaal. On that day I will remember those men & women who sacrificed their lives in order to liberate our country, Insha-Allah.

Grant · Postby **Grant** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:31 am

After WWII the former colonial powers, Britain in the North, and Italy in the South, became "Trustees" of their former colonies under the UN Trustee Council. The purpose was to prepare an educated administration to take over government after independence. Both colonies were granted independence and the former British Somaliland, against the advice of the British, joined Italian Somalia to form the nation of Somalia in 1960.

Britain, Italy and the US, as well as others, attempted a program of nation bulding after independence that included the Peace Corps language, school construction and health programs of which I was a part. The US trained and supplied the Somali Police Program, but declined to contribute to the Somali armed forces, which were pretty much exclusively trained and supplied by the Russians. Following Kacaanka, Russian military influences increased considerably, the American nation-building programs such as the Peace Corps and USAID were asked to leave, and contact with Americans, such as myself, was cut off.

Cold war competition for strategic control of the Horn and Red Sea meant that MSB was constantly being courted and materially and financially supplied by outside interests who had their own agendas. This permitted a military buildup during the seventies that the native Somali economy would never have supported, and which then left the country at the mercy of their own suppliers.

I believe Britain, Italy and the US had good intentions with respect to Somalia in the fifteen years between WWII and Independence, and in the decade after. I believe the "colonial" powers would have a far better reputation in Somalia today had the country not chosen the military option after the Kacaan.

That being said, all people are defined by the holidays they celebrate. For Mormons, it is the 24th of July, the day Brigham Young entered the Salt Lake Valley. Whichever day or days you choose as significant for you, make a point of celebrating them, especially in the worst of times, for that is the best statement you can make of the hope you have for the future, and it is a significant part of what makes Somalis unique.

Somalia will be great again. I believe. I will celebrate. Somalia ha noolato! :somalia:

Postby **FAH1223** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:46 pm

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