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slavery in islam

Postby surrender » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:00 am

this lady was telling us about slavery and islam, she was telling us how it is permissible to have a slave, :shock: :shock: and the fact that you can have a slave. also that person becomes yours to keep forvever,!!!!

im not 100% sure if what she was telling us was correct and at what terms. :?

any back up islamic proof that slavery is permissible in our religion?

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby FAH1223 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:28 am

The correct term is actually prisoners of war, because that's the only time a "slave" can be captured. And if they repent and choose Islam, then they're usually freed. No one can enslave a Muslim or someone who wasn't captured during a war between Muslims & non-Muslims. The reward for freeing a slave is Jannah according to the Prophet (saw):

"And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you find that there is good and honesty in them. And give them something (yourselves) out of the wealth of Allaah which He has bestowed upon you"

[al-Noor 24:33]

It was narrated that Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "They are your brothers whom Allaah has put under your authority, so if Allaah has put a person's brother under his authority, let him feed him from what he eats and clothe him from what he wears, and let him not overburden him with work, and if he does overburden him with work, then let him help him." Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6050).

It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard Abu'l-Qaasim (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: "Whoever accuses his slave when he is innocent of what he says will be flogged on the Day of Resurrection, unless he is as he said." Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6858).

Ibn 'Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) manumitted a slave of his, then he picked up a stick or something from the ground and said: There is no more reward in it than the equivalent of this, but I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: "Whoever slaps his slave or beats him, his expiation is to manumit him." Narrated by Muslim (1657).

Of course Muslims over the times like others abused their slaves. Even our forefathers had slaves in Somalia, which is pretty shameful what they did to them.

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=9 ... xt=slavery

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby surrender » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:32 pm

so is only POW? thanks FAH. is it true though that these pows were women when captured they dont need to be "married" they automatically become your wife? :? basically she's an object, he can treat her how he likes, be the father to her children without marrying. if you know what i mean. :(

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby Murax » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:33 pm

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Lets learn the basics of diinta before We start talking about other issues

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby surrender » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:40 pm

Murax wrote:Surrender

Lets learn the basics of diinta before We start talking about other issues


can a girl ask a religous question, or she has to wait before she learns the "basics" :o :? bisinka i just hope you dont advice anyone the same thing bro. dad baad lumin lahayd hadiikale. :(

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby Murax » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:46 pm

How will this knowledge benefit You?

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby SummerRain » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:48 pm

Surrender,

Wants to know in other words if having a maid is permissable in Islam. :roll: :lol:

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby FAH1223 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:49 pm

surrender wrote:so is only POW? thanks FAH. is it true though that these pows were women when captured they dont need to be "married" they automatically become your wife? :? basically she's an object, he can treat her how he likes, be the father to her children without marrying. if you know what i mean. :(


it depends really, some were enslaved, some were married...

but it is permissible for a man to have err.. "Relations" with a slave woman...it is what is right hand posesses

but in today's world, no one has slaves anymore...

you have some Muslims trying to get these malaysian, african, flilipino maids as "slaves" even though they are paid for their services...but thats not permissible to have relations with those women as they are paid employees, not slaves captured in war

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby surrender » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:01 pm

Murax wrote:How will this knowledge benefit You?



i wona followe up what she told us is true. :?
Ismahan123 wrote:Surrender,

Wants to know in other words if having a maid is permissable in Islam. :roll: :lol:


yeah i do. i got somone in mind. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


thanks FAH but out of the topic i got the feeling that you and hyper were the same person. hmmmmmm :?

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby BABYGIRL123 » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:14 am

Islam is ok with slavery you can also take away all the wives women and children of your enemies during war if you are a male and you can have sex with all of them lol you can make them your slaves too and you can also have sexual realtions with your slaves and its not danbi.

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Re: slavery in islam

Postby The_Emperior5 » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:27 am

sayid= master

cabiid slave

now in islamic times asxaabihi dadkay qabtaan wa islamayn jiireen
so when they entered islam they where no more slaves


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