Is Al shabab Khariji movement?

[RebelLion]

The evidence is clear, wether people agree with the government or not. They were elected by somali muslim representatives and rebelling against them makes on khariji. If they rebelled peacefully and wanted to be part of the political system like Sh sharif, that would be understandable. But instead they resort to coward tactics and beheading muslim soldiers.

A kharijites is anyone group of uncompromising fanatics who hide behind our beautiful religion for their own agenda's. The al shabab are kharijits. These guys think they are holy fighters but they do more damage to somali innocents.

[FAH1223]

The evidence is clear, wether people agree with the government or not. They were elected by somali muslim representatives and rebelling against them makes on khariji.If they rebelled peacefully and wanted to be part of the political system like Sh sharif, that would be understandable. But instead they resort to coward tactics and beheading muslim soldiers.

A kharijites is anyone group of uncompromising fanatics who hide behind our beautiful religion for their own agenda's. The al shabab are kharijits. These guys think they are holy fighters but they do more damage to somali innocents.

[RebelLion]

FAH

Were they not selected by somali representatives? go laugh somewhere else kid.

[FAH1223]

FAH

Were they not selected by somali representatives kid? go laugh somewhere else kid.

representing who?


who does m. dhere, muse suudi, qanyare, darwish and all these idiots....who do they represent? who represents them? ethiopia (of course) but who?

warlords need to be knocked off this earth

[RebelLion]

FAH

Listen you son of a isbaaro expert, what has al shabab done for somalia other than kill innocents? The TFG is the only form of government we have right now, it's because of the government that there is a peace deal which most somali's support except for clanist few. The TFG like it or not is an inclusive representation of somali's, every clan has someone representing their interests.

You're father must be brainwashing you.

[FAH1223]

FAH

Listen you son of a isbaaro expert, what has al shabab done for somalia other than kill innocents? The TFG is the only form of government we have right now, it's because of the government that there is a peace deal which most somali's support except for clanist few. The TFG like it or not is an inclusive representation of somali's, every clan has someone representing their interests.

You're father must be brainwashing you.

MOTHA FOCKA, leave my father out of this, he doesn't support anyone but he sure as hell doesn't support the TFG under any circumstance. And how am I an isbarro expert when I live in the West? Are you implying something with my clan lineage?

but the proof is in the pudding, the TFG is not a government and never will be a government when you have the same corrupt individuals who destroyed our capital with their mooryan, killed people in the 1990s in huge numbers and now walk around as if they are the parliamentarians and our representatives.

[GENERAL_SNM]

RebelLion I can see your arguement, the ends justify the means.But I can't imagine you would have the same opinion, if you changed xammer with bosaso, HG with Majerteen.

[Lacageylacag]

Look at these fool.
The TFG cannot be regarded as an authority under Islam.
To be regarded as the authority, they got to rule by shareeca however imperfect.

The TFG is doing the opposite, Fighting against islamic law and insisting on its "charter" made by a kenyan infidel lawyer, who was paid to write some nonsense by the UN.

al shabaab though not perfect are broadly speaking impossing shareeca law. they are far closer to be the "authority" in the somali circumstance.

The TFG was elected by somali warlords. its tennets border on kufr. so that election is null and void since it contrdicts the quran and sunnah.

[RebelLion]

FAH

Listen you son of a isbaaro expert, what has al shabab done for somalia other than kill innocents? The TFG is the only form of government we have right now, it's because of the government that there is a peace deal which most somali's support except for clanist few. The TFG like it or not is an inclusive representation of somali's, every clan has someone representing their interests.

You're father must be brainwashing you.

MOTHA FOCKA, leave my father out of this, he doesn't support anyone but he sure as hell doesn't support the TFG under any circumstance. And how am I an isbarro expert when I live in the West? Are you implying something with my clan lineage?

but the proof is in the pudding, the TFG is not a government and never will be a government when you have the same corrupt individuals who destroyed our capital with their mooryan, killed people in the 1990s in huge numbers and now walk around as if they are the parliamentarians and our representatives.

Mother focka? Grow up kid. The TFG is government recognized by the international community, I don't think it needs the recognition of pimple faced teenager.

Wether you like it or not the men you named are hawiye representatives, but they are irrelevant and they don't play a big part in the government. The more important players are President Abdullahi Yusuf and Prime minister nuur cadde, and they are both proven leaders. The government is not perfect, but somalia just went through a civil war, so you're not gonna find many clean people.

I noticed most al shabab supporters are clanist individuals who have no interest in a peaceful somalia. I suspect you're dad or adeers are brainwashing you.

[RebelLion]

RebelLion I can see your arguement, the ends justify the means.But I can't imagine you would have the same opinion, if you changed xammer with bosaso, HG with Majerteen.

I don't care for qabil man, a government is better no government. Besides the TFG is representative of all even some isaaq.

[FAH1223]

Mother focka? Grow up kid. The TFG is government recognized by the international community, I don't think it needs the recognition of pimple faced teenager.

Wether you like it or not the men you named are hawiye representatives, but they are irrelevant and they don't play a big part in the government. The more important players are President Abdullahi Yusuf and Prime minister nuur cadde, and they are both proven leaders. The government is not perfect, but somalia just went through a civil war, so you're not gonna find many clean people.

I noticed most al shabab supporters are clanist individuals who have no interest in a peaceful somalia. I suspect you're dad or adeers are brainwashing you.

I don't care if the USA/UN/EU/AU or Arab League say, its worthless! The TFG is recognized internationally, but that doesn't change the situation on the ground!

Listen, no one brainwashes me. If you want to say something about my clan or where I come from, go ahead and say it and not beat around the bush. I have adeers and not to mention my awoowe who SUPPORT the TFG. I make my opinions on observations and reason. I am not a clannist and you know that, I really could give two shids about qabyalaad. But yes, the same Xamar warlords (of which mostly are HAWIYE) who were in our capital for so many years are in the TFG, thats a fact no? Why should I support those dirty people? With their "grown up" mooryans running around as "TFG militia."

Abdullahi Yusuf and Nuur Cadde do not call the shots. We have already seen that.

I've criticized al shabaab before and i stand by it (i've seen videos of blowing up houses and the grenades and mortars), i don't like some of their battle tactics in mogadishu but everywhere else where there is a resistance, the liberation forces fight ethiopians in the country side and roads where supply lines go, thats how you fight a guerilla war while minimize civilians and collateral damage.

Somalia needs a government, but I will not support an institution that compromised our territorial sovereignty and was composed of idiots who have blood on their hands and continue the same crimes to this day under the guise of TFG, governor or MP.

Now good day, sxb. And leave my father or family out of your mouth (or in this case your fingers on your keyboard).

[RebelLion]

FAH

No one is telling you to support the government, you can criticize it all you want, but come 2009 there will be an election and the ethiopians are leaving. At the very least you should support the peace deal.

Only clan obsessed groups and radicals are against the peace deal.

[Salahuddiin]

This ignorant kid is just making fool out of himself, using words that are too big to his mouth without even understanding their meaning.

There's nothing Islamic about the government and there's nothing unislamic fighting against them.

If you want to continue discussing about this issue using Qur'an and Sunna as a basis of conversation then we can continue. If you want to continue it using ideas and definitions of UN charter or some other kufr sources, then please don't use Islamic terms because they are very irrelevant to the topic.

[FAH1223]

FAH

No one is telling you to support the government, you can criticize it all you want, but come 2009 there will be an election and the ethiopians are leaving. At the very least you should support the peace deal.

Only clan obsessed groups and radicals are against the peace deal.

2009...Peace...hmm..I'd hope so

I don't believe in the peace agreement as it has the last 15 years all over it.

But we'll see what happens in the 90+ days that are left of it, of course I don't believe Ethiopia will withdraw but if they do, it will be a welcomed move.

[Somali_4Life]

Look at these fool.
The TFG cannot be regarded as an authority under Islam.
To be regarded as the authority, they got to rule by shareeca however imperfect.

The TFG is doing the opposite, Fighting against islamic law and insisting on its "charter" made by a kenyan infidel lawyer, who was paid to write some nonsense by the UN.

al shabaab though not perfect are broadly speaking impossing shareeca law. they are far closer to be the "authority" in the somali circumstance.

The TFG was elected by somali warlords. its tennets border on kufr. so that election is null and void since it contrdicts the quran and sunnah.

The truth is that we should ask ourselves: who rules somalia? Does munaafiq and apostate abdullahi yusuf rule somalia or colonel Gebre(vassal king)?
Allah's messenger pbuh was talking about muslim ruler in a caliphate system,not democracy and surely not about ethiopian kuffar acting as vassal king.