Theory: Axum was Cushite

[James Dahl]

I have a theory that the Axumite empire was actually Cushite, and descended from the empire of Kush.

* The most famous emperor of Axum, Ezana, supposedly conquered Kush's capital Meroe. However, on his victory stele he does not mention conquering Meroe but rather defending it against the Nubians. He does however list the Gaze (or Ge'ez) and Agaw as people he conquered.

* Early Ge'ez rulers had their capital on the coast at Adulis, and do not show up in Axumite king lists.

* The last Emperor of Axum, when he was deposed, fled to the area of the country that remained loyal to Axum. He did not flee north into Tigray however but SOUTH, to Shoa, AWAY from Ge'ez people.

* The founder of Axum, Menelik, is descended in the royal genealogies from the Queen of Sheba, Makeda. Makeda however is a real person, Kandake Makeda Nicaule, who is firmly placed in the royal genealogies of the Empire of Kush at Napata and later Meroe.

[pseudowizard]

I have a theory that the Axumite empire was actually Cushite, and descended from the empire of Kush.

* The most famous emperor of Axum, Ezana, supposedly conquered Kush's capital Meroe. However, on his victory stele he does not mention conquering Meroe but rather defending it against the Nubians. He does however list the Gaze (or Ge'ez) and Agaw as people he conquered.

* Early Ge'ez rulers had their capital on the coast at Adulis, and do not show up in Axumite king lists.

* The last Emperor of Axum, when he was deposed, fled to the area of the country that remained loyal to Axum. He did not flee north into Tigray however but SOUTH, to Shoa, AWAY from Ge'ez people.

* The founder of Axum, Menelik, is descended in the royal genealogies from the Queen of Sheba, Makeda. Makeda however is a real person, Kandake Makeda Nicaule, who is firmly placed in the royal genealogies of the Empire of Kush at Napata and later Meroe.

Take your half-baked theory elsewhere.

[The_Emperior5]

Habeshe being semetic is just based on language geez not on origin They are still somehow realted to the ancient Nubians Kushites

[James Dahl]

Some more theoreticals


The Agaw I believe are descended from Agaua (in ancient Kushite his name is pronounced Awawa) who was the son and viceroy of the Pharaoh Akhenaten, who many authors also believe was Moses, something the Agaw themselves believe as well as they list Moses as their ancestor, who moved south to the Ethiopian highlands after Pharaoh Seti I defeated Agaua's descendant Amenemopet.

The Agaw therefore became rulers by virtue of their descent from Moses after the Solomonic Axumite kings were deposed (I believe for converting to Islam). I believe that the "second Solomonic dynasty" or the Ge'ez dynasty was something of a fib (though who knows, they probably claimed descent through some female or distant branch lineage) and their first act as rulers was to destroy the Makhzumi dynasty of Shoa (who I believe were the rightful descendants).

[garowegal]

Pharaoh akhentaten had only one son tutkhamun with his second wife kiya his great royal wife nefertiti had all daughters.Tutkhamun later went on to become pharaoh himself, so i dont believe that theory.

[James Dahl]

Actually Akhenaten had many wives and concubines and children, as did every Pharaoh (Rameses II had several hundred wives and thousands of children).
Kiya for instance was from Kush, and Akhenaten spent most of his adulthood in Kush, as he was his father's viceroy there until he took the throne.

It is not conclusively proven that Tutankhamun was even the son of Akhenaten

[garowegal]

I read he had many wives one of which was a Babylonian princess, but much isn't known about them except for Nefertiti. I thought Akhenaten spent most of his time in memphis thats where his belief for aten started; then came back to thebes , and was crowned prince after the death of tuthmosis in which some people believed he killed for the throne

[garowegal]

There is some evidence proving that kiya was the mother of tutkhamun i will look for it ; btw if you are interested in Egyptology you should read Michelle moran's Nefertititi its a fantastic book, Ancient Egypt really comes alive in that one

[James Dahl]

You've got Akhenaten and his brother Thutmose confused. Thutmose was High Priest of Ptah at Memphis. Akhenaten was Viceroy of Kush at Buhen.

[garowegal]

No i know the difference between the two Akhenaten believed in aten and tried to change Egypt's religion into a monotheistic one.

[The_Emperior5]

You've got Akhenaten and his brother Thutmose confused. Thutmose was High Priest of Ptah at Memphis. Akhenaten was Viceroy of Kush at Buhen.

did tuute muse exist back then in ancient time waleh priest buu aha buu ku yidhi

[Voltage]

Again, not a single source.

But then again, who needs references nowadays?

[surrender]

voltage lol. maxaa kugu dhacay.? you seem to be in a bad mood today?


GG and jamed Dahl. what i always wonder is (and im hoping u guys can help me) how come when they show pictures of these kings and queens of egypt, they look like Europeans, or arabs? werent egyptians black? or is this way of white people telling the world that, anything beautiful, powerful and rich were white? im confused. they give them, the european nose, face, and even colour.

[surrender]

here's examples:

[garowegal]

Ancient Egypt was very diverse it included, Nubian's, Hittites, Ethiopians, etc.. and then the Ptolemaic Dynasty who were Greek, For Example Queen Cleopatra was of Greek Descent, Nefertiti was a native of Mittani, There is a bust of hers Sculpted by Thutmose the official court sculptor on the Altes museum in Berlin and her skin color is light brown like the present day Egyptians.