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DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:42 am
by Shilling
Dhikr is stressed over a hundred times in the Holy Qur'an. It is the most praiseworthy work to earn Allah's pleasure, the most effective weapon to overcome the enemy, and the most deserving of deeds in reward. The Shari'a is clear and everyone knows what they have to do. Indeed, the Prophet said that the People of Paradise will only regret one thing: not having made enough dhikr in the world!

Allah too says in His holy Book: "O Believers, make abundant mention of ALLAH!" (33:41) And He mentions of His servants "Those who remember their Lord standing, and sitting, and lying on their sides" (3:191), in other words at all times of the day and night. He said (3:190-191): "The creation of heaven and earth and the changes of night and day are signs for people who have wisdom: -- consider who is described as having wisdom -- Those who remember (and recite and call) Allah standing up, sitting, and lying on their sides."

SO! Are not those who are making up reasons to discourage others from making dhikr afraid of Allah in this tremendous matter?

The Prophet said: "(I am advising you in one thing:) Keep your tongue always moist with dhikrullah."

This is an advise Sufis (Ahl as-Sunnah wal Jama'ah) taken to heart, one they had kept and passed down from one generation to another in its pure form since the days of our prophet (pbuh). We continue to gather in number to prays Allah, for doing it so the nowadays "Salafis" (Wahabis) call us misguided, we kept the use of dhikr beads alive and for doing it so the Wahabis call us misguided.

In Bukhari and Muslim: The Prophet said that Allah has angels roaming the roads to find the people of dhikr, i.e. those who say La Ilaha Illallah and similar expressions, and when they find a group of people (qawm) reciting dhikr, they call each other and encompass them in layers until the first heaven -- the location of which is in Allah's knowledge. (This is to say, an unlimited number of angels are going to be over that group. He didn't say: "when they find one person." Therefore it is a must to be in a group to get this particular reward.) Allah asks His angels, and He knows already (but he asks in order to assure it and make it understandable for us) "What are my servants saying?" (He did not say "servant," but 'ibadi, "servants" in the plural.) The angels say: "They are praising You (tasbih) and magnifying Your Name (takbir) and glorifying You (tahmid), and giving You the best Attributes (tamjid)." (Can you say that all this is a lecture or a study group? Can you say that this is silent? Rather, this is saying "Alhamdulillah" and all kinds of other dhikr.) Allah says: "Have they seen Me?" The angels answer: "O our Lord! They did not see You." He says: "(They are praising Me without seeing Me,) what if they see Me!" The angels answer: "O our Lord, if they saw You, they are going to do more and more worship, more and more tasbih, more and more takbir, more and more tamjid!" He says: "What are they asking?" Angels say: "They are asking Your Paradise!" He says: "Did they see Paradise?" They say: "O our Lord, no, they have not seen it." He says: "And how will they be if they see it?" They say: "If they see Paradise, they are going to be more attached and attracted to it!" He says: "What are they fearing and running away from?" (When we are saying, "Ya Ghaffar (O Forgiver), Ya Sattar (O Concealer)," it means that we are fearing Him because of our sins. We are asking Him to hide our sins and forgive us.) They say: "They are fearing and running away from hellfire." He says: "And have they seen hellfire?" They say: "O our Lord, no, they did not see hellfire." He says: "And how will they be if they see fire and hell?" They say: "If they see your fire, they are going to be running from it more and more, and be even more afraid of it." (Now listen to this carefully:) And Allah says: "I am making you witness (and does Allah need witnesses? He needs no witness since He said: "Allah is sufficient as witness." Why make the angels witnesses? Does Allah change His word? "Making you witness" here means, "Assuring you") that I have forgiven them." (Why has Allah forgiven them? Because, as the beginning of the hadith states, they are a group of people reciting the Names of Allah and remembering Him with His dhikr.) One of the angels says: "O my Lord, someone was there who did not belong to that group, but came for some other need." (That person came for some other purpose than dhikr, to ask someone for something.) Allah says: "Those are such a group that anyone who sits with them -- no matter for what reason -- that person will also have his sins forgiven."


And for gathering in number to prays Allah they dare to call us misguided...Yaab!

Allah says in His Holy Book to His Holy Prophet, "Remind people, for reminding benefits them." The reminder of Muslims has various forms, public and private. A public form of this reminder is the adhan. The prayer-beads, has had since the earliest Companions the function of a private reminder.

This is proven by the sahih hadith of Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas, who related that the Prophet once saw a woman using some datestones or pebbles (nawan aw hasan), and did not prohibit her to use them. This hadith is found in Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, Nisa'i, Ibn Maja, Ibn Hibban, and Hakim. Dhahabi declared it sahih. Another sahih hadith to that effect was related by Safiyya, who was seen by the Prophet, Peace be upon him, counting "Subhan Allah" on four thousand date stones. This hadith is found in Tirmidhi, Hakim, and Tabarani, and was confirmed as sahih by Suyuti. It is also related from the Prophet's freedman, Abu Safiyya, that a mat would be spread for him and a basket made of palm leaves brought which was filled with pebbles with which he would make tasbih until mid-day. Then it would be taken away, and then brought back after he had prayed, and he would make tasbih again until evening. This is narrated in Ibn Hajar's Isaba (7:106 #652) with his chain, who says that Bukhari narrates it [in his Tarikh], as well as al-Baghawi through two chains.


Not once did our bless prophet discourage anyone of his companions yet the Wahabis dare to call us misguided...Yaab!

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:02 pm
by 007.MALI
Jazzak'Allah Khyr. Can you share your source?

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:06 pm
by Xaaji_Xundjuf
mashallah dikru rasuul wa dikrulilah very good

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:10 pm
by Sir-Luggoyo
Shilling,

Adeer xaggeen kuugu soo hagaagnaa, in one thread you are quoting the Bahai faith to legitimize adeer beer doofaar's alliance with the Tigre, in another thread, you are talking about dhikr ................ bal doc uun isugu baydh

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:48 pm
by Enlightened~Sista
JazakAllah Khair Shilling :up:

[Men who celebrate the praises of Allah, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides.] (Surat Aal Imran 3: 190)

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:03 pm
by Murax
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:52 pm
by paidmonk
This guy is actually searching in the Hadiths for a reason to slob on Tigray d!cks.

I didn't know Tigray d!cks were that special. If they get this much love from Somali fellas, I wonder how well they do with the ladies. :lol:

OMFG! Its over for Somalis! Its just focking over! :lol:

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:06 am
by Shilling
Sir-Luggoyo wrote:Shilling,

Adeer xaggeen kuugu soo hagaagnaa, in one thread you are quoting the Bahai faith to legitimize adeer beer doofaar's alliance with the Tigre, in another thread, you are talking about dhikr ................ bal doc uun isugu baydh


Sir-Luggoyo,

Bahahi faith had nothing to do with what I've provided in that other thread, heck if you had read it yourself you would have figured this out yourself since all you had to do was scroll up...But you know how we Somalis do: we got nothing better to do then cry foul, the thread was based on dhikr yet "beer doofaar" is all you had to add to it....Yaab!

Murax,

Your giggling I see...As expected the dhikr is joke to you and Sufis are misguided...So your sure you the guided one? This is something to ponder about kid:

The prophet (pbuh) prophesised that Islam would split into 73 sects BUT ONLY ONE would go to heaven, hence Allah will sentence to hell the majority of Muslims. However the prophet did not specify which one is the right one, hence Muslims are living in doubt.

Abdullah bin Amar (RA) relates that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one." The companions asked, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "They are those who will be like me and my companions."

Yeah, kid your just like the prophet and his companions while I'm not...after all passing judgment comes natural to you right? I like how you play god, especially with the bowing down remark in your location.

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:15 am
by Mr. Yungnfresh
there's nothing wrong with dhikr...u guys just over-do it


at the end of the day, Islam is the Islam Muhammad SAW brought...as soon as u add or take anything away from it, it's a new and different religion sxb

if Muhammad SAW himself didn't do that much dhikr and in those same ways suufis do/over-do it, then either ur on a path more guided than him or ur in error

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:23 am
by Shirib
Looks really fun :mrgreen:


Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:26 am
by Shilling
Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:there's nothing wrong with dhikr...u guys just over-do it


While some hit the nightclubs I like to hit the Sufis mosque and glorify my god...but each will receive his reward on judgment day right?

It was Allah (swt) that said, "Those men and women who engage much in Allah's praise. For them has Allah prepared forgiveness and a great reward." (3:191, 33:35)

No such thing as over doing here...I don't see Allah (swt) setting limit on anything do you?

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:30 am
by Voltage
Dhikr yes, Hadro no.

Walking in the street and saying "Al xamdulilaah" is Dhikr and beautiful.

Gathering in a group, spraying some perfume, and chanting poems is Hadro. It is not of the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammed (SCW).

Again, Dhikr yes, Hadro no. Learn the difference.

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:33 am
by Mr. Yungnfresh
Shilling wrote:
Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:there's nothing wrong with dhikr...u guys just over-do it


While some hit the nightclubs I like to hit the Sufis mosque and glorify my god...but each will receive his reward on judgment day right?

It was Allah (swt) that said, "Those men and women who engage much in Allah's praise. For them has Allah prepared forgiveness and a great reward." (3:191, 33:35)

No such thing as over doing here...I don't see Allah (swt) setting limit on anything do you?


what if i bring u authentic evidence right now from the Saxaba's clearly forbidding excessive worship and dhikr of Allah (above and beyond what Rasuulullah SAW taught us)? Will u condemn this phenomenon on the spot?

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:35 am
by Shilling
Shirib,

Your ignorance is too great, but I won't step down to the level of some here and call you misguided.

The people you fine funny in that video clip are invoking blessings on the Prophet...noting funny about it.

Abu Hurayra reported that the Prophet said: "If people sit in an assembly in which they do not remember Allah nor invoke a blessing on the Prophet, it will be a cause of grief for them on the Day of Judgment." (Narrated by Tirmidhi, who graded it hasan).

Re: DHIKR IS THE GREATEST OBLIGATION

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:44 am
by Shilling
Mr. Yungnfresh,

Nothing is more authentic then the Qur'an and was in the Qur'an that Allah (swt) said, "Those men and women who engage much in Allah's praise. For them has Allah prepared forgiveness and a great reward." (3:191, 33:35)

Again do you see Allah (swt) setting limits?