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Re: Homophobia
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:40 pm
by gurey25

paidmonk you homolover you
but paidmonk has a point, there shouldnt be that much hostility towards them,
although to me i never found them threatening, just "icky"
like how you would feel over a cockroach crawling over your hands.
but like most things you will get used to it,
if you play with cockroaches all day, you will get used to them.
if you work with gays and live in the same apartment complex you will get used to them..
and paidmonk.... you like trannies eh?
then soi 6 in pattaya, thailand would be right up your alley

Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:48 am
by Voltage
I swear to god I don't think it is because people (non-Muslims or the like) hate them for what they do behind closed doors but when grown men walk out into the street looking disgusting and so unnatural. It is sick wallahi.
How the hell does a man purposely walk like a woman, and wear clothes designed for woman, and purposely tries to imitate a woman and all because they are trying to attract other men but which disgusts other men to the fullest. How can you NOT be a homophobe then when the interest of society is at stake?
That is one, another thing homosexuality itself is a sickness. THere is not a single biologic reason for homosexual so there is no WAY one can say they were designed that way. No there is not a single biologic reason, so if they were not designed that way it means they became that way. What do you think majority of abused boys became gay or some raped woman become prostitutues BECAUSE of their rape. It is a psychological illness and if gay activism wasn't so powerful in Western countries then the answer against it would have already been found. Right now if researchers even attempt to undertake research which seeks to add weight to the fact homosexuality IS NOT a biologic reasoning they are attacked immediately by gay activists but the irony is gay activism has made it very friendly for researchers to proof homosexuality is biologic and not a single thing yet.
How can we accept and approve of something we know is a psychological problem?
Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:00 am
by razzberry
Voltage wrote:
How can we accept and approve of something we know is a psychological problem?
How can we accept it? Because we know its not and illness. How do we know? Well take this into consideration.
People claim that homosexuals were the victims of childhood sexual abuse however Studies show that 1 in 4 girls will be sexually abused before the age of 18 and 1 in 7 boys will be.
1 in 4 women are not gay and 1 in seven men are not gayPeople claim homosexuality is a lerned behavior however
the majority of homosexuals were born to hetero parents. Given our homophobic media in the past most people over the age of 25 rarely or never saw homosexual/homoerotic images on screen or on the radio during childhood. If they did its was usually straits making fun of or bashing gays.
Most people had their first puppy love crush before the age of 9
Most gays admit to knowing they were homosexual before even knowing what the word meant. They just came out that way. Think about it. Did anyone have to teach you how to be strait or is it something you already knew?
Children who are raised in homes with a set of gay parents are just as likely to be strait as children who are raised in hetero homes. Why?
because as stated above children can't be taught their sexuality.Rightwing groups have been coming up with all kinds of Ex Gay treatment programs for decades now.
they have over a 90% failure rate. about 2% commit suicide. the left over 8 percent can never have healthy relations with women or men.Why is it that even in the face of death or extreme persicution, many men living in third world countries will still practice their sexual preferences dispite the fact that it is illegal?
Its simple. You can't surpress whats really inside no matter how much you try. And last but not least
Homosexuality has not been considered a disorder for decades now
Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:41 am
by Ashlee
It takes a lot of energy and effort to hate, so I don't get it either.
Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:40 am
by siren
Razzberry Are you muslim?

Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:10 pm
by Boqor__Daarod
i dont care let ppl live there lives. and in the end god will judge us all.
plus we live in a westren countries.
Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:24 pm
by Cisse Westlake
siren wrote:Razzberry Are you muslim?

she is not even somali. that is why she is advocating for homosexual rights

Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:32 pm
by zulaika
paidmonk wrote:Ok, here's what I don't understand.
How can someone who isn't fundamentally bothering your space...bother you? I understand if gays beat you up day in and day out, but they're fairly non-violent from what I've seen. Why do so many people, across cultures - hate them? Maybe I'm just not much of a hater, but some of you make it a hobby to care about something that affects your life in no way, shape, or form.
Its one thing to be morally objective to homosexuality, even though I really don't object since I'm not big on religion (and neither are many of you) - but its another thing to hate someone that doesn't violate your own space. Maybe I've just had too many positive experiences with queers, but some of you act like you've been butt-raped repeatedly by a local queer mafia syndicate. wtf!
Someone should explain to me what sort of experiences led to their homophobia, I'm intrigued by this phenomenon.
its not a matter of hate, but rather an inherent evolutionary trait among "human-folk" to dislike/dispel anything that would seek to its extinction....the process of homosexuality would definitely ensure to such end of mankind..if all men seek to mate with other men...unless of course homos discover a way to a-sexually reproduce.
the thing is, it takes the process of heterosexual unions to procreate more humans, among of which may potentially include homosexually inclined humans. in other words, in comparison to the former, homosexuality is more of a human whim than necessity. naftood la ciyaar who seek to destroy the continuum of mankind.
naturally, the inner human of us all would be alarm at the mere mention of extinction.
hope that explains it better dear.
Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:03 pm
by Basra-
zulaika and your crappy gay friendly analysis...
paidmond....

u frequent qaniis club? U like shemales?

Uff i dont know whether to slap u or slaughter u,i am still deciding. Anyway to answer your question: Hostility towards gays is obvious: Its general fear of being an outcast.Hetero despise gays because they fear the 'repercussion' of being gay--they fear to be outcast, isolated and discriminated.Mankind by design is made to want to 'belong' somewhere, that is why there is tribe, qabil, race, etc etc--and their greatest fear is to be judged and cast out--out there in the cold.Every homophobic in their mind--FIRST would think--'oh my god--what would people think'????So u would say--its fear of being judged or killed as a result of an action.Its a survival mode. And of course there is the matter of closeted in denial homos whose extreme homophobia reflects there deep rooted homo erotic thoughts.In essence they r battling their own homosexuality by actively hating homos in order perpetuate their deniability! I hate homos therefore i am not one of them, is their simple explanation.You could also argue this hate is also based on fear of facing oneself.That undiluted, raw self that we tend to muzzle and surpress with alcohol and qaad.
By all account FEAR is the driving force!

Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:46 pm
by razzberry
Cisse Westlake wrote:she is not even somali. that is why she is advocating for homosexual rights

Im not advocating for homosexual rights. I advocate for human rights.
Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:21 pm
by FAH1223
razzberry wrote:Voltage wrote:
How can we accept and approve of something we know is a psychological problem?
How can we accept it? Because we know its not and illness. How do we know? Well take this into consideration.
People claim that homosexuals were the victims of childhood sexual abuse however Studies show that 1 in 4 girls will be sexually abused before the age of 18 and 1 in 7 boys will be.
1 in 4 women are not gay and 1 in seven men are not gayPeople claim homosexuality is a lerned behavior however
the majority of homosexuals were born to hetero parents. Given our homophobic media in the past most people over the age of 25 rarely or never saw homosexual/homoerotic images on screen or on the radio during childhood. If they did its was usually straits making fun of or bashing gays.
Most people had their first puppy love crush before the age of 9
Most gays admit to knowing they were homosexual before even knowing what the word meant. They just came out that way. Think about it. Did anyone have to teach you how to be strait or is it something you already knew?
Children who are raised in homes with a set of gay parents are just as likely to be strait as children who are raised in hetero homes. Why?
because as stated above children can't be taught their sexuality.Rightwing groups have been coming up with all kinds of Ex Gay treatment programs for decades now.
they have over a 90% failure rate. about 2% commit suicide. the left over 8 percent can never have healthy relations with women or men.Why is it that even in the face of death or extreme persicution, many men living in third world countries will still practice their sexual preferences dispite the fact that it is illegal?
Its simple. You can't surpress whats really inside no matter how much you try. And last but not least
Homosexuality has not been considered a disorder for decades now
We do not accept homosexuality. Its always been around but it is a behavior we reject and it is a learned behavior through sick thoughts of the mind.
God does not create people gay,
It goes against our religion and we will not have the masjid be turned into some of these churches/synagogues having gay clergymen and rabbis, aqas caleyk.
Allah would never create people that way because then people would be born as transgressing bounds which is never the case, humans make up it on their own.
Thank God, gays are a minority.
Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:15 pm
by Haddad
These sort of people have no place in an Islamic society or Caliphate. They better stay in the West, for this is an example of what would happen to them:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02061.html
Re: Homophobia
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:32 pm
by razzberry
FAH1223 wrote:God does not create people gay,
Allah would never create people that way because then people would be born as transgressing bounds which is never the case, humans make up it on their own.
Thank God, gays are a minority.
I will not debate with you on whether people are born gay or not. You seem to have your mind pretty made up.
God also created people with the ability to be compassionate, logical, and understanding.
Gays may be in the minority but they are still here. If some people have a problem with them then they should just ignore them.
And why are some so concerned with other peoples sexual practices. When I come across serverely homophobic people I can't help but to speculate about their sexuality and what they may be trying to cover up..........................
Re: Homophobia
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:35 am
by Voltage
razzberry wrote:And last but not leastHomosexuality has not been considered a disorder for decades now
Yes, due to intense gay activism that now wants to force a biological connection that is not there.
Science says otherwise Razzberry. Do you know the man who is the cause of homosexuality being taken off as a disorder in 1970's recently completed his latest experiment that PROVED gays can become straight? Have you ever heard of Spitzer?
Read the Spitzer experiment
In the field of psychiatry, Dr. Robert L. Spitzer, a historic champion of gay activism, who played a pivotal role in 1973, in removing homosexuality from the psychiatric manual of mental disorders, conducted extensive research on "reparative therapy". The results of the study have just been published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 32, No. 5, October 2003, pp. 403-417. Spitzer's findings challenge the widely held assumption that a homosexual orientation is "who one is" - an intrinsic part of a person's identity, that can never be changed. There were some 200 respondents of both genders (143 males, 57 females) who reported changes from homosexual to heterosexual orientation, lasting 5 years or more.
http://hellorosetta.com/mag/?p=66The tide is turning against gay activism. Sooner or later, homosexuality will be declared for what it really is, a psychological problem that is cause by environmental factors. How else could two twins from the same egg and sperm have different sexual orientations?
The power of gay activism has already decline immensely ever since their failed intense campaign to legalize same-sex marriage. Dadki bay isku direen

Re: Homophobia
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:55 am
by Somaliman%
Gay people have always existed throughout time, they exist in somalia, not just in the western world, and they didnt just increase now, but its being accepted more, so more people are coming out, and theres millions of them.
in fact did u know there was a gay town in somalia, near merka, where all the somali gays and shemales lived, the somali government knew and did nothing about it. kos they knew homosexuality is part of society and no matter how much you kill them or oppress them, there will always be gays, it doesnt make a difference.
and as for those who say your not born gay, then how do you explain the 5 year old boy, who talks and acts like a complete girl, and who likes barbie dolls and hates football, is that his fault, what does he know at that age, except acting who he is and how he was made.
i dont know why we should hate people who do nothing to us, and we hardly even see, let people choose and do as they please, only god can judge. somalis need to stop the extremist mentality, and we need more tolerant, openminded people like paidmonk and razzberry.