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Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby Warsan_Star_Muslimah » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:07 pm

I suppose so James, however this is a big problem in Somalia today. Why do you think Somalia is not stable today? Because every Clan believe its their right to rule the country.

Somalis don't want the best person to rule the country, they want their clan to rule the country. Every clan believes somehow their clan is the best, there's no such a thing as equality in Somalia.

Arabia is split into Clans, Africa is split into Clans...a lot of those countries have put aside their differences....for the life of me I cannot understand the problem with Somalis.

I'm happy with being Somali, I honestly believe with clan differences aside....Somalis will be very successful.

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby James Dahl » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:27 pm

I think that is a common belief, that it is clan divisions that fuel the fighting. I do not believe this to be precisely true.

The clan divisions allow opportunists the opening they need to seize power, and then use that power to exploit their people and conquer and exploit their neighbors.

The warlords and foreign nations that have exploited clan divisions have not done so to further those clans' interests, but their own.

The problem with Somalia is there is no authority strong enough or respected enough to prevent this from happening.

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:03 pm

Theres no doubt in my mind that we descended from Oromos :up: :up:

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby dawwa9 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:12 pm

Somalis

come

from

Somalia..

Neither Yemen or Ethiopia

Is that so hard to believe?

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby dawwa9 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:15 pm

Oromos are midgets

Somalis are very tall people

Plus I never seen an Oromo with loose curly hair, they always have nappy hard hair.

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:19 pm

dawwa...Oromos are not like the other xabashi..i remember the first time i saw them on t.v...these two diffierent Oromo tribes were fighting over resources or something like that in Kenya..and wallahi i could have sworn they were Somali..untill i heard them speak..their language is quite similar to Af Somali too...before that i have never seen Oromos..only heard about them ..read about them..it was really spooky :mrgreen:

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby dawwa9 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:24 pm

Enlightened~Sista wrote:dawwa...Oromos are not like the other xabashi..i remember the first time i saw them on t.v...these two diffierent Oromo tribes were fighting over resources or something like that in Kenya..and wallahi i could have sworn they were Somali..untill i heard them speak..their language is quite similar to Af Somali too...before that i have never seen Oromos..only heard about them ..read about them..it was really spooky :mrgreen:


I have been to Addis and most people there were Oromos

They look kind of like Somalis but are a lot shorter, average Oromo male height is like 170cm while for Somalis it is 184cm.

Plus they ALL have Jareer hair, Soft hair is not common in Oromos, maybe a few have it but the fast majority don't.

They also somewhat lighter then Somalis. (Because of the highlands they live in)

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:28 pm

the Oromos in Kenya look just like Somalis.

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby dawwa9 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:30 pm

Because those are mixed with Somalis, same with the ones the live close to Ogadenis.


Real Oromos from inland Ethiopia are very easy to set apart from Somalis

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:33 pm

If they are mixed with Somalis then why do they call themselves Oromo? Why dont they speak Somali then?

its the other way round..the ones u saw are the ones who are mixed with Amharas

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby dawwa9 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:39 pm

Enlightened~Sista wrote:If they are mixed with Somalis then why do they call themselves Oromo? Why dont they speak Somali then?

its the other way round..the ones u saw are the ones who are mixed with Amharas


Why would they call themselfs Somali, if they have more Oromo blood then Somali or if their father is Oromo? :?

Many Somalis in Harar/Dirre Dawa have Oromo blood too but they don't call themselves Oromo.

Addis Ababa is in the Oromo heathland, most people are pure Oromos with barely any Amhara blood.

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby ciyaal_warta » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:52 pm

James Dahl wrote:I could have told you that. The ancestry of Samaale is
Samaale binu Hiil binu Humbana binu Barentuma binu Oromo bin Ashama al-Negashi bin Abjar


:up: :up: :up:

i would rather be a pple dat look alike me not a mofakin dhagacas aka carab

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby X.Playa » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:34 pm

Pre-Islamic somali tribes such as , Dir, Hawiye, D& Mirifle and almost 50% of Daarood have some cultural triat and admixture of Oromo elements.

Hargaysa isn't and can't be Oromo town, Hargaysa is less then 200 years old, and the name Hargaysa itself is less then 90 years old, Hargaysa of 1910 and before was refered to as Herer (small Harar).

There is no record of Oromo settelment of most somalia , the Oromo oral history never claimes any part of somalia that tells you the pre-islamic somalis (non Isaaq non Daarood) were in somalia for thousands of years.

Not only some of us came from the middle east even our sheep the fat tailed black headed breed is of Persian origin and above all the somali life line the camles came from Arabia with horses,

Somalis introduced both camesl and horses to Xabashis and the unique persian black headed sheeps.

The pre-Islamic tribes of somalia have to stop their obsesson with Arab-Phobia, our entire culture from clans to camles is of Arab origin.

No oromos have the systematic tribal segmenation and genealogy , most Oromos are basically despied animals in Ethopia they are known for 2 things , been passive docile and dirty, the first is never a somali vice or virtue and the last has no place in the somali nomads way of life the nomads are exermist in heygine you would never see a somali nomad without a bursh twig burshing his teeth as mater of entertainment while watching his camles.

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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby QansaGabeyle » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:16 pm

James Dahl wrote:I could have told you that. The ancestry of Samaale is
Samaale binu Hiil binu Humbana binu Barentuma binu Oromo bin Ashama al-Negashi bin Abjar


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Re: Somalis descended from Oromo. here is the proof in Pic

Postby James Dahl » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:09 pm

X.Playa wrote:Pre-Islamic somali tribes such as , Dir, Hawiye, D& Mirifle and almost 50% of Daarood have some cultural triat and admixture of Oromo elements.

Hargaysa isn't and can't be Oromo town, Hargaysa is less then 200 years old, and the name Hargaysa itself is less then 90 years old, Hargaysa of 1910 and before was refered to as Herer (small Harar).


Hargaysa is not less than 200 years old, Yusuf al-Kawnayn conquered it from the Yibir over a thousand years ago.

X.Playa wrote:There is no record of Oromo settelment of most somalia , the Oromo oral history never claimes any part of somalia that tells you the pre-islamic somalis (non Isaaq non Daarood) were in somalia for thousands of years.


You're mistaking effect and cause. Somalis were in Somalia for thousands of years, but for the first thousand they were Oromo themselves. Most Oromo do actually believe that Somalis stole their ancestral lands, and that they were originally from Somalia, but the experts at oral history will tell you that this is nonsense, since the Somali are Humbana Oromo and thus splitters, not conquerers.

X.Playa wrote:Not only some of us came from the middle east even our sheep the fat tailed black headed breed is of Persian origin and above all the somali life line the camles came from Arabia with horses,

Somalis introduced both camesl and horses to Xabashis and the unique persian black headed sheeps.

The pre-Islamic tribes of somalia have to stop their obsesson with Arab-Phobia, our entire culture from clans to camles is of Arab origin.


Yes and no, the dromedary camel was introduced to Somalia from Egypt by the Ptolemies in 200 BCE, when they expanded down the red sea coast. Somalia's sheep have been in east africa for much longer, the Qahtani brought them with them when they first settled in Ethiopia in 2500 BCE. The Arabs did introduce horses though, in the 800s when the Caliphate conquered Zeila.

X.Playa wrote:No oromos have the systematic tribal segmenation and genealogy , most Oromos are basically despied animals in Ethopia they are known for 2 things , been passive docile and dirty, the first is never a somali vice or virtue and the last has no place in the somali nomads way of life the nomads are exermist in heygine you would never see a somali nomad without a bursh twig burshing his teeth as mater of entertainment while watching his camles.


Oromos do have systematic tribal segmentation and genealogy, and it's just as complex as the Somali clan system. I was led to believe the same as you, but decided to check anyways and it's completely wrong. Oromo are far more noble than you give them credit for, they have much in common with Somali.


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