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France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby American-Suufi » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:13 am

Wednesday, July 16, 2008
By Angela Charlton, Associated Press

Paris (AP) - The case started quietly, when a Muslim woman who sheaths herself in a head-to-toe veil was denied French citizenship because she had not assimilated enough into this society. France's highest body upheld the decision, and politicians across the spectrum agreed it was the right move.

A few dissenting voices, though, are now questioning whether the decision pushed France's secularist values too far.

"Where does it begin or end? What we are calling radical behavior?" asked Mohammed Bechari, president of the National Federation of French Muslims. "Will we see a man refused citizenship because of the length of his beard ... or a man who is dressed as a rabbi, or a priest?"

On June 27, France's highest administrative body, the Council of State, ruled that the woman, identified only as Faiza X, had "adopted a radical practice of her religion incompatible with the essential values of the French community, notably with the principle of equality of the sexes, and therefore she does not fulfill the conditions of assimilation" listed in the country's Civil Code as a requirement for gaining French citizenship.

The council said the decision to refuse her citizenship did not aim to "attack (her) freedom of religion."

But critics accuse the French justice system of breeding fear and intolerance of Islam under the guise of upholding secularism. The country is home to western Europe's largest Muslim population, estimated to be at least 5 million of the nation's 63 million people - and growing.

French officialdom has struggled to instill secular traditions in Muslim immigrant communities, passing a law in 2004 barring the Islamic headscarf and other highly visible religious symbols from public schools. Proponents of that law welcomed the decision denying citizenship to Faiza X, who wears a niqab, or full-body veil, to her meetings with immigration officials.

"The burqa, it's a prison, a straitjacket," France's minister for urban affairs, Fadela Amara, herself born to Algerian parents, was quoted as saying.

The terms burqa and niqab are often used interchangeably in France, though the former refers to a full-body covering worn largely in Afghanistan with only a mesh screen over the eyes. An official state document said the woman wore a full-body niqab, which left her eyes uncovered.

"It is not a religious sign but the visible sign of a totalitarian political project preaching inequality between the sexes, and which carries within it the total absence of democracy," Amara was quoted as saying in the daily Le Parisien.

Amara told the paper she hoped extremists would get a strong message from the Council of State's ruling, which upheld immigration officials' refusal to grant citizenship to Faiza X.

The council's ruling did not refer to Faiza's niqab, which she said she adopted after arriving in France from her native Morocco, according to a report from a government commissioner to the Council.

The woman told immigration officials that she did not know anything about secularism or her right to vote, according to the commissioner's report. All the immigration officials handling her case were women. They asked her to remove her veil to identify herself, which she did only when no men were in the room, the report said.

Later, in a letter to immigration officials, the woman defended her lifestyle by noting that other immigrants granted French citizenship also maintain "ties with their culture of origin."

The woman and her husband told immigration officials that they adhere to Salafism, a strict strain of Islam.

Her statements to immigration officials indicate that "she leads a life almost of a recluse, cut off from French society," leaving the house only to walk with her children or visit relatives, the report said.

"She lives in total submission to the men in her family ... and the idea of contesting this submission doesn't even occur to her," the government report said.

Politicians on talk shows this week spoke out in support of the ruling. But Muslim groups had mixed reactions.

Mohammed Moussaoui, head of the moderate French Council for Muslim Communities, issued a cautious statement that did not come out strongly for or against the ruling. He said only that his group "rejects all forms of extremism and stigmas that would keep the Muslim component of the nation's society from living its spirituality in peace."

But Fouad Alaoui, vice president of the Union of Islamic Organizations of France, said, "It's a turning point in our judiciary that should make us think.

"I don't think that clothing is part of this country's values. Clothing is personal freedom."

Then he added, "On a personal level, I too am disturbed when I see a woman hide her face."

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Re: France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby sheekh-Farax-zero » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:35 am

this news has been posted several times.



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Re: France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:56 am

as much as i dislike the niqaab intensely...this is just so wrong.

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Re: France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby Cawar » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:05 am

If I was a judge in France, I would deny her too.

Onething is to keep your faith and practice it the way you want..so long as you are free to do so..and I think thats the case in most Euro countries and the west..
But another is to insist keeping All your believes without any compromise(i.e the Niqab) and expect a speacial treatment.

"therefore she does not fulfill the conditions of assimilation" listed in the country's Civil Code as a requirement for gaining French citizenship."

If thats the case...then why demand for their citizenship and refuse to assimilate?? I mean I am sure no one had asked her to come to court naked or leave her religion..right??

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Re: France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:09 am

Cawar im confused..what exactly did she refuse to do :? ..i mean what was required of her in order to get french citizenship

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Re: France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby Cawar » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:14 am

ES,

re-read carefully and you should be able to see ..what I am talking about. And if you cant?? well we may disagree on this then.
BTW, this is just my oppinion on the case :mrgreen:

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Re: France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:23 am

Cawar you are the one who is supporting the judge here..im sure most of snet are supporting the sister.

the article mentions how she leads a sujugated life "She lives in total submission to the men in her family ... and the idea of contesting this submission doesn't even occur to her," the government report said....im sorry but male chauvinism is not exclusive to Muslim men...that is absolutely no ground to reject her citizenship! :roll:

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Re: France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby Cawar » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:27 am

Enlightened~Sista wrote:Cawar you are the one who is supporting the judge here..im sure most of snet are supporting the sister.

the article mentions how she leads a sujugated life "She lives in total submission to the men in her family ... and the idea of contesting this submission doesn't even occur to her," the government report said....im sorry but male chauvinism is not exclusive to Muslim men...that is absolutely no ground to reject her citizenship! :roll:


In that case..she shouldnt even seek the french citizenship..and the men in her family are weaklinks who deserve to be deported.

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Re: France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:00 am

:lol: :lol:

Okay now that the french have made it clear these people are unwanted..there is no other option for them but to go back..forget court battles..they should just go...or dress in a way that enables them to live in peace and harmony with all sections of french society. :)

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Re: France Denies Citizenship to Veiled Muslim Woman

Postby American-Suufi » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:57 am

We all agree that no one should be discriminated on how they look or how they dress. But the point is if Salafis claim to be a "puritanical sect" why would they prefer to live in a country like France known for its exterme secular governance and refuse to live in their birth Muslim country Morocco? Aren't the Salafis who call all westerners "infidels" instead of addressing each one of them by their nationalities like French, Americans, Canadian German and etc? Hypocrites.


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