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Grant wrote::?: Somalis themselves have managed to alienate virtually all the country's friends. The Russians made Afweyne a king in his own country, but a pawn outside.

If loyality&Geopolitical intrests counted, Russia should have sided with Somalia i the Ogaden war..The fact is they had other bizarre unknown agendas by helpig Ethiopia thus betraying Somalia

Somaliweyn wrote:

SahanGalbeed wrote:Been bey ku sheegeen kuwii ku dhalay .
Markaad kufto ," aax tol la'ay..aar iga soo gaadhaaaaay .." la iska cabaade , sidi nin rag , baa in ta la is giijiyo , kor la isu taaga .


Ka soo fikir makhnuud yahow makhnuud ku dhalay sidaad dadkaaga MAANTA wax aad ugu qaban lahayd , sidaad nabad iyo horumar dadkaaga ugu caawin lahayd , FUC.KIN BASTARD, fooqal Bastard !
Looking back on a period you weren't even born ain't gonna solve any of your current problems , jaanjaan waaxid !

Abu hoyadood wasooyinka aad ku caabudan halkan , baa Somalia dhulka la dhacay , fuc.kin gudhus , weligiin wax ma kala garatan !

It burns in your heart knowing that Somalia will come back, and your secessionist dream will come to an end. Doesn't it?

We were yesterday like that on the video, and tommorow we will be far greater than that. When that day comes, there will be no warlordism, opportunism, secesionism and mooryanism.

This coming joyful news must be a burning heat in your heart, why else would you talk like that, and even on Ramadan!

The desperation is clear in this gentelman called Sahangalbeed,he said the other day that shabaab fighting members should go back to their respective clans,,when clear fact o the ground is al-shabaabs founders and core leadership is almost exclusively Isaaq (forget about media-man abuu mansoor ), I am not kidding ,.he now feels the the heat on the doorsteps,but I give credit these "qaldaans" up north for their organizational skills whether it be secular or ideological

General_Farax wrote:

Grant wrote::?: Somalis themselves have managed to alienate virtually all the country's friends. The Russians made Afweyne a king in his own country, but a pawn outside.

If loyality&Geopolitical intrests counted, Russia should have sided with Somalia i the Ogaden war..The fact is they had other bizarre unknown agendas by helpig Ethiopia thus betraying Somalia

And then sent cubans to fight there as well!

Horta what happened to all the tanks, armoured vechicles, etc. the SNA used to have. The different Somali factions probably didn't even know how to use them!


I wouldn't expect militias to know How to fly the Mig Fighter jets, but even the tanks etc. couldn't be utilized by anybody because the miltias didn't know how to operate them, but instead mounted every 4x4 with Antiaircraft Guns

Well many people will not admit it, that is Russia betrayed somalia in its quest to unite somali regions because Ethiopia is a coptic led nation whilst somalia is a muslim nation.
Russia claims to have been communist at that point of time however they still had strong leanings to coptic faith which they share with Ethiopia.

Today we are also suffering from another superpower such as the United States because we are simply Muslims while ethiopia is a coptic lead nation.
There is no more Islamic Turkey, no more Islamic nations that we could turn to for help.

son of somalia?
sxb,wht is ur clan horta?

Addow....

hi kadarag gacaliso

Son of somalia munafaqnimada aad wadid bal eeg Somalias problem is not russia or america its the warlords from mogadisho oo aan rabbin dawlad or any sort of hormar or Somalia uu soo noqoto maxaad beenta iskugu sheegayssa, dabkana waxaasii shiidaya. Qolooyinka puntiland America is irrelevant adiga walaan cummamad qaadanaya 2008 uu leh Diin baa ku dagaalamaya wax aan shaqayneyn

Addoow wrote:hi kadarag gacaliso

You know and i know that i will not answer such a chidlish question.

I am a Son of Somalia.

Not a childish question,idiot,stop beating around the bush and answer the question and if you dont know your clan ,the blame will fall on your strict father who didnt tell you your midgaan clan.

Addoow with all respects i don't want to fight with you.

Have dignity and stop asking me what i don't want to hear, i told you that i am a son of somalia.

Grant wrote::?: Somalis themselves have managed to alienate virtually all the country's friends. The Russians made Afweyne a king in his own country, but a pawn outside.

Kings should at least be able to feed themselves in a drought, something which has not happened since independence. Furthermore, as the 1977 war showed, armaments that are not produced, or at least paid for, at home, don't really count. The country was a net loss even for the Italians, who had to subsidize it from the very beginning.

Let's talk about feeding Somalis before we talk about dominating the Horn.

Somalia hasn't alienated any-one. The Soviets made a strategic gamble by supporting the Ethiopian regime and hoping America and the West would not intervene on behalf of Muslim Somalia against a largely Christian-dominated Ethiopia. And it paid off. Thousands of Cuban Mercenaries supported by thousands more Yemeni troops and paid for in Libyan money guaranteed the defeat of Somalia.

The main strategic blunder Somalia made was placing all its eggs in the Soviet basket. It would have been Wise for Somalia at the time to have similar strategic partnership with the PRC and other Communist-led countries that were not entirely in bed with the Soviet Union. The painful consequences of this folly was felt when we began to run out of armaments as hordes of communists mercenaries pierced through our defenses.

You are right that self-reliance goes a long way in freeing a country but that's a topic for another day. However, we have to remember it wasn't Somalia that betrayed the Soviets. It was the Soviet's that stabbed us in back by siding with an adversary that had strong strategic relations with the West.