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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby Kolombo » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:15 pm

salafi_student wrote:Many of those Somalis who are trusted with Umra and haj visas for a limited period, do often escape in the land and break their pledge to go back. Then they pollute the air! When they are found, may be after long years, they get send back to fulfill their un-kept and forgotten promises to fly back. Hence those jailbirds, would be the last people to say anything good about the Saudis and you see allot of them around.


Look at this simpleton. Saudi Arabia is Daarul-Islaam and any Muslim regardless of race or nationality has a right to stay there. Statehood, Qabyaalad, etc. are all 'Asabiya and are rejected in Islam. Those poor immigrants from Somalia & other Muslim countries have every right to stay in Saudi Arabia. No distinguishing between Muslim countries; learn your religion.


When Sudan declared Shari'ah government, the first country to sanction them was Saudi Arabia, even before the U.S. & Israel placed their sanctions.

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby *Nobleman* » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:49 pm

Some element of truth laakin some sources needed.

Also i heard the saudi's fund ethopia against the onlf, because of the oil in the ogaden region and the effect it would have on their price, laakin allah yaclam

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby American Salafi » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:55 pm

I am amazed at how obsessed patriot, kolombo and Haddad are with Saudi Arabia. Do you feel good constantly bring Saudi Arabia in your topics. I believe you hate Saudi Arabia so much that you won't be making Hajj anytime soon.

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby Kolombo » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:03 pm

American Salafi wrote:I am amazed at how obsessed patriot, kolombo and Haddad are with Saudi Arabia. Do you feel good constantly bring Saudi Arabia in your topics. I believe you hate Saudi Arabia so much that you won't be making Hajj anytime soon.


Because we envy them and are jealous of them. :up:

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby The_Patriot » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:05 pm

American Salafi wrote:I am amazed at how obsessed patriot, kolombo and Haddad are with Saudi Arabia. Do you feel good constantly bring Saudi Arabia in your topics. I believe you hate Saudi Arabia so much that you won't be making Hajj anytime soon.


I am Also Amazed at how you try to defend them, my point was to show that they are as corrupt us other regimes like Gadafi, Xusni mubarak etc.

I am not making Takfir on them nor making any fatawa.

But you call a spade a spade.

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby American Salafi » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:08 pm

patriot


If your not making takfir on them then you obviously know that publicly mocking the muslim rulers is HARAAM whether they are corrupt or not. This the path of the Khawarij.

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby The_Patriot » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:16 pm

American Salafi wrote:patriot


If your not making takfir on them then you obviously know that publicly mocking the muslim rulers is HARAAM whether they are corrupt or not. This the path of the Khawarij.

He is mnot my ruler dude, nor do i pay taxes on him nor do i get protection from him.
At least you can Say Gordon Brown is your amir, then I will not refuse cos i come under his dominion.

But for Saudis naaah! So when did I become Khawarij by condeming this corrupt leaders?

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby American Salafi » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:21 pm

Patriot

Your talking like a freaking liberal nutcase. "He is not my amir, I don't pay taxes" You should follow the advise of the prophet. The prophet (may peace be upon) said in an authentic hadith, Either say something good or keep silent. This nonstop bashing of the Muslim Rulers is nothing but useless talk. Either contribute something good liking making Du'a that Allah makes them just or keep quiet.

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby The_Patriot » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:24 pm

American Salafi wrote:Patriot

Your talking like a freaking liberal nutcase. "He is not my amir, I don't pay taxes" You should follow the advise of the prophet. The prophet (may peace be upon) said in an authentic hadith, Either say something good or keep silent. This nonstop bashing of the Muslim Rulers is nothing but useless talk. Either contribute something good liking making Du'a that Allah makes them just or keep quiet.


warya I will tell you one thing for sure that is He is not my Amir never will he be my Amir, He is the Amir of Saudi Arabia and is responsible for the outsting of the Amir of Iraq(SAdam).

Dude the problem with you guys is you take the deen to judge us. 1st judge yourself.

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby American Salafi » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:31 pm

patriot

Ok he is not your Amir. You said that a million times. we understand you. But this constant bombardment of insults and looking for the mistakes of the muslim rulers is getting to far. What benefit is there to keep repeating these issues? Wallahi i don't understand. Are trying to start some sort of somalinet revolution to take over Saudi Arabia? Has your hatred of Salafiyyah taken you over the edge?

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby The_Patriot » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:40 pm

American Salafi wrote:patriot

Ok he is not your Amir. You said that a million times. we understand you. But this constant bombardment of insults and looking for the mistakes of the muslim rulers is getting to far. What benefit is there to keep repeating these issues? Wallahi i don't understand. Are trying to start some sort of somalinet revolution to take over Saudi Arabia? Has your hatred of Salafiyyah taken you over the edge?


warya I dont hate the Salafiya, I hate their jahiliyah akhlaq, I do pray in their mosques at times.

Also please refrain from using 'muslim rulers' it is a misleading terminology say leader.

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:43 pm

I stopped supporting the House of Saud since they stopped donating Timiir to my local Masjid :down:

THem Saudi Timir are tasty :up:

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby American Salafi » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:45 pm

patriot

what salafi masjids do you pray?

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby Salahuddiin » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:54 pm

American Salafi

If mocking the rulers is haram then why do you talk bad about amirs of ICU and al Shabaab? Aren't they islamic rulers of Somalia since 2006 when they took over? Or Abdullah Yusuf is the legal ruler? What's your opinion on this?

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Re: Saudi Arabia.

Postby American Salafi » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:00 pm

Salahuddin

My opinion is useless because I don't have knowledge to speak about the Issue. Abdullahi Yusuf is not a legit leader because he has not come with the conditions of leadership. He and his gov. don't control anything to speak of so you can't call them the leaders of Somalia. As for The ICU, yes if they had maintained their power, then yes it is wajib upon us to accept them and be obedient. The situation is different now. So its always good to return to the people of knowledge when it comes to these issues.


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