F*ck Ceyr

[Cawar]

Shabeelada hoose is dhul HG..yes. How do I know this??

Well, they have lived there, moved and migrated from Dhuusa-mareeb by scores sine 1991 and now they are claiming it.

C'mmon ppl. Muran macno darra ah ma fiicna. at least say..yes we are there by force and we will be there till someone removes us from there by force. thats acceptable.

[Somaliweyn]

Shirib,

Lower Shabelle did not exist before 1970, both Shabelle were called Banaadir.

In the near future, both Shabelle will be called Banaadir.

Whats your view on that?

[abdi ilyas]

sh.hoose and shabeelaha dhexa banaadir the state of abgaal geladi who?
guduumiyaha sh.hoose is abgaal

[Shirib]

sh.hoose and shabeelaha dhexa banaadir was called the state of abgaal. geladi who?
guduumiyaha sh.hoose is abgaal

Before Italians came I ruled Xamar, and I ruled south Somalia

[Shirib]

Shirib,

Lower Shabelle did not exist before 1970, both Shabelle were called Banaadir.

In the near future, both Shabelle will be called Banaadir.

Whats your view on that?

Depends how its administered. I'm not a fan of clan states

[Somali_4Life]

sh.hoose and shabeelaha dhexa banaadir was called the state of abgaal. geladi who?
guduumiyaha sh.hoose is abgaal

Before Italians came I ruled Xamar, and I ruled south Somalia

Times changes brother.

Your clan should arise once again.

[Somaliweyn]

Shirib,

Lower Shabelle did not exist before 1970, both Shabelle were called Banaadir.

In the near future, both Shabelle will be called Banaadir.

Whats your view on that?

Depends how its administered. I'm not a fan of clan states

Local representative structures.

People will elect their own governors.

What do you think of that?

[AbdiWahab252]

Somaliweyn,

I have noticed this strange observation among beesha Hawiye.

Why the fock do we refer to Darood by their subclans while they refer to us in a Singular term, Hawiye ?

This crap needs to change.

[abdi ilyas]

Shirib from 2 day i will not alow you 2 claim ex,banaadir( as somaliweyn siad sh.hoose did not exsist before 1970.)

[Somaliweyn]

AW,

If they divide themselves up into indivudual units, its their right and business to do so.

But when it comes to our affaires, it is better to be one unit since we share the same challenges.

Eventually, all Somalis should be one unit, since we all share the same challenges in the Horn of Africa and the wider world.


It's a matter of tactics and long-term vision.

[abdi ilyas]

sh.hoose and shabeelaha dhexa banaadir was called the state of abgaal. geladi who?
guduumiyaha sh.hoose is abgaal

Before Italians came I ruled Xamar, and I ruled south Somalia

shegaxareer

back 2 reality Guduumiyaha degmada ex.banaadir(sh.hoose) abgaal.

[sadeboi]

Somaliweyn I don't care about who lives in Shabeela..but hawiye is not a clan in the sense they all are from one common forefather like Darood...waa confederation and overtime people are just added...

Do you know your abtiris? Can you count to udejeen? mudulood? if so meeqo baad ka tirsata??

I believe anything above Hiraab should not claim hawiye!

[Cali_Gaab]

Sadeboi, Hawiye is Hawiye, no matter how many people want to see them break up into smaller groups.
If they feel it to be neccesary to be grouped as 1 clan then so be it.

Ps: Why is this 'negative' clan topic still around and has managed to reach 10pages?
Hyper....why don't you feel the need to move it to it's section or erase it completely?

[sadeboi]

I'm not against hawiye being called hawiye..or even people who claim hawiye...i just think if we are speaking realistically some hawiye clans are not hawiye..and abdiwahab made the point kamsle hawiye are daroods carab saalax...but mind you carab salaax do not claim darood

[Cali_Gaab]

Ok, just checkin you're not thinking outside of the box again....you know....seeing things from a different perspective...all purple and shyt