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Voltage wrote:Xoogsade what is your opinion on the occupation of Somalia?

On one hand you said, occupation of any parts of Somalia does not concern you as long as your clan lands are not occupied.

Can one call you unpatriotic just from that statement?

I am not Xoogsade, but not necessarily. Remember we don't have a central government and a country and it's my clan's interest first and foremost for every clan out there

Captain24 wrote:I am not Xoogsad

I asked Xoogsade not one of the occupation's most ardent supporters in Somalinet.

Volt

I answered your question adeer.

Xoog,

I am saddened to see your patriotism questioned.. by other who I think are not half as patriotic as you.

What they either dont understand or purposely denying is the fact that in current day somalia..

The situation is mostly about qabil interest..including most the shabab backers..and that Ethiopia's so called occupation is just an excuse..more like the tip of the iceberg.

Again, i don't support the Ethiopian occupation, but again you won't believe me so fck it


It' just a sorry position we put ourselves in it, and we have to put our clan alliance on hold to overcome it

Cawar

Sxb to them if you don't support Shabaab/ICU you're not a patriot or worse you're a murtad. Sort of like the Neo-Cons.

How can someone who believes Caydiid/Ali Mahdi/ Rest of the warlords are good men convince me that he/she supports Shabaab/ICU for "religious and patriotic" reasons?

xoogSADE14, your a Joker walahi

Still dreaming about your Jubbaland

Biitch just keep biitching as we deal with the HIV Tigray Ethiopians

We don't care what you think and how you see things because you don't matter as yesterday you were cheerleading for the HIV Tigray Ethiopians and today you are pretending to be neautral

Cawar you hve no dignity walahi, who's winning now?

Cawar the TFG that you supported like a fanatic is being moved to Kenya right now as we speak.

Traitors make me sick, somalia Hanoolato

Kid, you need to learn how to debate people without insulting them.

Of course I supported and still support the actions of my leader the Hon. Col. Hiiraale to liberate our lands from the ICU the last time around and I support his upcoming campaign now.

However, I dare you to bring forth one instance where I stated my support for TPLF operations in non Mareexaan lands?

As for Jubbaland, if you're a good muslims (like you'd have us believe) why does the development and prosperity of our lands bother you? Could it be because we're Darood?

Until you categorically renounce the atrocities committed by the USC, your support for the ICU/Shabaab is and will be for clan motivated reasons kid.

I find that I am in full agreement with XoogSADE14 on his stance, which is surprising in of itself. He has a very nuanced (look it up) position, in contrast to his whole idea of 'support al Shabaab or be a traitor to your people', a simplistic approach which is patently preposterous in both form and content.

again,there are people whose support for the Re-liberation of somali is still up in the air and havnt decided yet cuz they believe the re-liberation process is dominated by a certain clan or serves the interests of a certain clan!

Xoogsade
your comments just added fuel to the fire!

His traitorship or patriotism lies in answering one question:
Who would he support if new war("recapturing kismayo") starts between barre hirale(dabadhilif) feat Ethiopians vs Alshabaab and UIC.
Let me tell you this: his qabilism will lead him to traitorship,traitorship leads to selfhumiliation.

xoogSADE14 wrote:Shabaab

Its alright sxb, even though my family has sacrificed more for Somalia than probably your entire sub-clan. I won't question your patriotism and don't question mine.

Again, you wouldn't know that unless I tell you. I don't believe you're a mind reader or fortune teller.

Of course I supported and still support the actions of my leader the Hon. Col. Hiiraale to liberate our lands from the ICU the last time around and I support his upcoming campaign now.

Your leader liberated your "lands" with the help of the TPLF. You don't have a beef with the TPLF 'cause it liberated your "lands" for you.

xoogSADE14 wrote: I'm not going to take up arms against the TPLF. I have no reason to. Somalinimo wax la yiraahdo majirto.

OK but doesn't that then point to the fact that you are NOT patriotic, an assertion that received a negative response from you the first time?

what has patriotism got to do with al-shabab ideology? al shabab believes in an islamic state governed by kalif osama bin laden. al shabab and patriotism=oxymoron.