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Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:03 pm
by Xaaji_Xundjuf
but how can they do that in islam the khalif must be from the quresh clan. most of the hawiyes. killed all the asharaaf ahlu bait in konfuurta. Sheikh salax iyo dadkisa kuma noola. Shikhaal hadalkooda iska daa kuwaasii ba ba bay oo dhowyihin.

now they have 4 men From ardu al somaal= Somaliland , ahli al baytkum
Ina godane
Abu bark maxammad seylici
Maxammad al druzii.
Sheikh farax xassan.

kuwaaas aya ka dhigayaan emir al mumunintii
nimankaas aya wixi quresh ah ka hadheen geeska africa.

4 nin ba horta isku xigii doona inta konfuurta somaliya la siifeeynayo

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:05 pm
by Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah
a somali will not be the Khalifa, trust me the mahdi is an Arab :lol:

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:15 pm
by Xaaji_Xundjuf
The mahdi will be fromt he Ahli bait line.

u can start califate all u need is Qureish as emir. like the past
Fatimide Empire dawladii cabaasiyada and Ummayad Empire.

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:18 pm
by FAH1223
Ottomans was a caliphate...

i don't recall any Turks coming from Quraish :|

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:04 pm
by Xaaji_Xundjuf
waxaasii khalifyad may ahayn self styled Califate bay ahayd.

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:04 am
by midnimo09
who said only quraish can form a caliphate......and who said isaaq was qureysh :lol: :lol: :lol: ...thats some funny shit.

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:01 am
by Babygirl-
Who said a khalif has to be from the Quraish??? what xadith/Religion/Scholar/Prophet said this? :|

The Ottamans were the last Muslim Caliphate weak and corrupt at the end but still a great one.

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:05 am
by Ina Baxar
:lol: , babygirl , ninkan wuu wareer dhaafay !

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:09 am
by Babygirl-
:lol: :lol: Mental institution dhiga dee! :lol:

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:18 am
by Xaaji_Xundjuf
having a islamic empire it does not mean you are having a caliphate
there where shadow caliphate 13 and 16 centry. and there wher was also in the 16 centry the ottoman empire . and what does islam say there cant be 2 emirs. 8-)
ina baxarow shaqadaadi maha iska fadhiso slaamihi ka so umulii :lol:

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:28 am
by James Dahl
Xaaji_Xundjuf wrote:but how can they do that in islam the khalif must be from the quresh clan. most of the hawiyes. killed all the asharaaf ahlu bait in konfuurta. Sheikh salax iyo dadkisa kuma noola. Shikhaal hadalkooda iska daa kuwaasii ba ba bay oo dhowyihin.

now they have 4 men From ardu al somaal= Somaliland , ahli al baytkum
Ina godane
Abu bark maxammad seylici
Maxammad al druzii.
Sheikh farax xassan.

kuwaaas aya ka dhigayaan emir al mumunintii
nimankaas aya wixi quresh ah ka hadheen geeska africa.

4 nin ba horta isku xigii doona inta konfuurta somaliya la siifeeynayo


They've got an Isaaq in charge of Kismayo, they could just promote him to Caliph.

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:34 am
by Xaaji_Xundjuf
yes i think abubakr maxammad seylici wll be there new khalif :mrgreen:

Re: Alshabaab wants to start a caliphate but how

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:30 am
by Salahuddiin
Insha Allah Somalia will be an islamic state and that doesn't mean that it will be a caliphate in itself. But insha Allah there will one day be khilafa that islamic state of Somalia is part of.

And khalifa is supposed to be from Quraish like Prophet (saws) said. It is narrated from Abu Huraira that Prophet (saws) said: An naas tabacun liquraish fi hada as sha'ni = People follow Quraish in this matter. And also from Ibn Cumar That Prophet (saws) said: La yazaalu hada al amr fi quraish ma baqiya min an naas ithaan = This matter remains in Quraish if there are two persons around.

And both of these can be found from collections of Bukhari and Muslim.