surrender wrote:Elan Morin Tedronai wrote:surrender wrote:Elan Morin Tedronai you claim to be the religious one here. going oon about somaliwayn this somaliwayn that. diin this, diin that. brotherhood this brotherhood that! yet you inslut anyone who you dont agree with you. from where we standing now, who's the munafaq? beenta jooji, and dont judge people because you happened to hate them. at this very moment it sounds your bitter, angry and pure hater! what AY did in terms of Ethiopia was he's fault for following the West's orders, but if it werent for AY you and i wouldnt be here today. prolly dead long ago. the man does have principles. he's also man of geesinimo as he never feared Siyad and the faqash regime, and was the one who saved us from him.
though i do/did disagree with him in certain aspects of he's approach on somalia and somalis, AY was the one who gave us hope and courage against the Faqash! and if it werent for him, prolly today we would be under regime/faqash rule still. he gave us the chance to follow who we wanted to. he build/coined the idea of brotherhoodnimo. believe you me if it werent for this man, most of us would be under faqash rule to this day.
dont be so imotionally reterted and give credit were is due!!!!!!
ps: the war wasnt started by AY but by siyad aun. the day we went and shook hands with the americans, the went behind their back and shook hands with Russians, thats the day the war began. he played us, he played somali and played our future. we are stuck in proxy war that began years ago.
anyways Siyad did what he did. AY did what he did. now, is up to the new president.
in my opinion sh.sharif will be good president who lead he's people, OR another puppet.
we shall see. but whatever he is, for the sake of he's people-the southerners and he's own life, he better be good. though im confused, how is he going to please everyone? from america and the west. to the islamic movements that are arising. someone is not going to be happy. just hope its the americans/west.
what a load of codswallop. surrender you are comparing siyad barre to that traitor. unbelievable.
First of all i have no love siyad barre. My father may he rest in peace was a commander of tanks during the war of ogaden. My uncles were in the airforce. When the war was finished, my uncles were killed by siad barre because some snitch said that they were doing a revolution. My father resigned his job and told siyad he will never serve him again for his crimes. Siyad bombed my people in hargeysa. siyad did many terrible things.
But siyad was a nationalist. He went to war to free our ogaden cousins from that hiv trash in addis abbaba. The whole country was united in that war to free our lands. And we would have won had the cubans and russians not interefered.
but what did CY do? He brought those filty ethio trash in our country. First time in history. These animals were in our country. That dog is nothing but a warlord and a traitor. My uncles and my father did'nt fight that ogaden war so that one day we would have eithios in our country. Brought by a dog.
That's the difference. Siyad was a nationalist. CY was a traitorous dog. May he burn in hell for all eternity
so hold on a sec, siyad was nationalist? BUT killed he's own people.? hmmm something doesnt add up here! he killed anyone that spoke against him. anyone that showed resistence!! that included isaaqs, hawiye and mjs. what he did in buroa and hegaisya was 1/2 what he did in Galkacyo. the man killed anybody and everybody that didnt agree with him. he was a dictator.
so he build few roads in hegaiysa, and xamar along with kismayo. (but nothing glakacyo, garowe or basoso, remember that) that makes him a nationalist? he was working with the devils all along, nobody knew the shady deals he was making with them, of course at that time somalis werent as politically active as they are now.(just take a look at xamar ) they just followed like sheeps, or resist and was lined and shot! no other choice
you said He went to war to free our ogaden? yeah buts that when he shook hands with both devils. how would it work?,, it would never work and it didnt! he made a deal with the Russians and Americans and send our fathers for war he knew he would never win and didnt win. they did won the battle. but never the war. he was caught red handed what he was doing. but by then most of he's family lived in America and West Europe.
look here Elan i dont wona say anything bad about someone who's already passed away (though these are pure facts and would never want to bad mouth someone who's in agrave), but you have to realise something. you cant make excuse for someone who literally sold our flag, name dignity and pasport!.
when i say nationalist in the sense he was the type of person who even when he was being overthrown did'nt bring foreign troops to help him out. Unlike cy who brought the filth into our country.
siyad barre was a good president until he lost his mind and refused to hand over power peacefully and therefore killing people. in the end his thirst of power finished him
cy however is a somali traitor first and foremost. He worked with somalia's eternal enemy eithopia. He is like that jewish collabrators who worked with the nazis to save their own skin.
Nalat ba kutalla.
i don't think we are going to agree on anything. But the fact remains. CY was an eithopian puppet and for that there can be no redemption.
Hundreeds of years from now he will be known as the first man in somalia's history who collabarated with the enemy. The legacy of a disgraced traitor