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A friend was trying to explain this to me earlier today..The father the son and the holy ghost, The 3 are one. Like a shamrock...Now the father sent down the son..and when he went away sent down the ghost..as a dove?? ...According to her..God is his son..and his son is GOD but his son moonlights as a holy ghost,the holy spirit and a dove and they all sent each other even though there all one and the same thing. DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE

i read it from somewhere, that the original christians (basically the people that followed prophet issa cs and he's kitaab, dont know if we were to call them christians or what not) that they were good, in fact would go to heaven. the only difference with these christians is that of the idea of son of God! hadnt they not believed that, they would be just like us?hmm

surrender wrote:i read it from somewhere, that the original christians (basically the people that followed prophet issa cs and he's kitaab, dont know if we were to call them christians or what not) that they were good, in fact would go to heaven. the only difference with these christians is that of the idea of son of God! hadnt they not believed that, they would be just like us?hmm

Yea..that's what im saying..the two religions are so similar but there are few differences and those few differences make a big difference.

No it does not. Christians themselves have a hard time understanding the Holy Trinity. What their trying to say is, God in heaven send Jesus a man (his son) who is also one with god to earth because he could intermingle with human beings.

Yea its hard for people to understand..i don't think its meant to be understood really..just some confusing shid if you ask me.

It's something along the lines of the father, the son, and the ghost being seperate entities (that aren't really seperate) which really add to form a single entity.

Basically, instead of 1+1+1=3, 1+1+1=1.

My friend tried to explain it, bless her soul.

There were originally four groups who disagreed over the nature of Jesus.
The Arians believed he was a prophet, but a mortal man and an ordinary son of Joseph and Mary, and that the only god is God. The Arians basically had the same beliefs as Muslims do today about the nature of Christ and God, which is why a lot of Christians consider Muslims "Arians". The Arians believe that Jesus didn't actually rise from the dead, but merely appeared to his followers after his death as a vision. The second group believed that Jesus was an immortal demi-God, and so he could not be permanently killed and rose from the dead. Armenians and Ethiopians fall into this group. The third group, believe that he had a mortal body and a seperate, divine nature that was "contained" within this body. When he died, this divine nature, or "holy ghost" re-animated his body and that's how he rose from the dead, this group today are the Assyrian Christians. A fourth group after this tried to make it out that he was a MORTAL demi-god, AND had an immortal nature as well, which is connected to the mortal divinity in some obscure way. These are the Nicene christians, which is all other Christians.

This is where the whole "Trinity" thing comes from, it was a declaration at Nicea that God is three things, but really only one thing. God is simultaneously the Son (since Jesus is God made flesh, though you wonder who ran everything while he was on vacation in human form), the Father (ie God) and the Holy Ghost (the post-crucification zombie who addressed his followers).

Ironically, the Arian view is the original Christian view. The others are mixed with all kinds of other strange religions and influenced by Greek and Roman mythology.