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Advo wrote:Each state differ though, when I first came to seattle from one of the most lockdown schools in california, I was shocked, people were just walking around after the bell rang, niggas were smoking outside and the most heart pounding one, people were ditching classes and going where ever, a no no in San Diego, u can go to jail for that shid, I had to go to courts and shid from getting so many tickets. It was an eye opening experience.

btw, the UK education is weird, dont they choose major for you..........they decide ur future innit.

"alright lil nigga...what big arms u have, u going into labor"

"he ching...the fuk u going?...lawyer?...get ur ass back to accounting"

"Im sorry raj, but that's just ridiculous, u will survive doing computer, trust me"

"Lil abdi, off topic but how many sources of unholy income do ur parents get"

Not really its kinda of class situation that chooses future i.e a white middle class kid will go to uni, a white lower class kid will go into employment.

surrender wrote:lol@advo. have u been to UK horta?

for me: British Education system. nin walowba naftaa nabiyow umadaa! even if u fail primary, you'll managed to get into high school, if u fail that there's still a chance for you to got college. fail that, all u have to do is one year access course and you can get into uni, and get a degree!

American education system waa funny, i use to watch lotta American TV back in the days, and you'll se grown men going to high school lol.

ahahahaha bless you. The 'grown men' were actors lol

I wouldn't say the British education system is all that. When I first came here I found it a little strange to be honest coming from a very structured educational system to an almost laissez faire one. The educational success of the child depends mostly on the type of school they go to which is also influenced by which post code you happen to live in. Thankfully I went to school is the best performing borough in Greater London at the time but I really feel for those kids who have to study in inner city schools. There is also no real uniformity in that there are different types of schools such grammar schools and comprehensive schools...the former being better than the latter.

Schools in the UK also don't review the performance of the child as much as they should. They try to avoid exams and recently they even proposed scrapping primary school exams claiming that it was stressful for kids and unnecessary which I find totally nonsensical....they've probably already scrapped them. What I don't understand is, how are you supposed to determine the level of knowledge of the child if you don't even test them? My nephews are starting secondary school soon and I was looking at the performances of the high schools in their local area and was really surprised at how bad they all are....which is a real shame because one of them is a genius. I was told that Somali kids are the worst performing on average, probably because most of them live in areas which generally have rubbish schools.

Having said that, I don't really know anything about schools in the US and knowing how clueless most Americans are I can only reach the conclusion that American schools are worse.

lol nobleman i know that. i used to get confused baryihii hora why are grown 30yr men in high school..

eyes-only wrote:I wouldn't say the British education system is all that. When I first came here I found it a little strange to be honest coming from a very structured educational system to an almost laissez faire one. The educational success of the child depends mostly on the type of school they go to which is also influenced by which post code you happen to live in. Thankfully I went to school is the best performing borough in Greater London at the time but I really feel for those kids who have to study in inner city schools. There is also no real uniformity in that there are different types of schools such grammar schools and comprehensive schools...the former being better than the latter.

Schools in the UK also don't review the performance of the child as much as they should. They try to avoid exams and recently they even proposed scrapping primary school exams claiming that it was stressful for kids and unnecessary which I find totally nonsensical....they've probably already scrapped them. What I don't understand is, how are you supposed to determine the level of knowledge of the child if you don't even test them? My nephews are starting secondary school soon and I was looking at the performances of the high schools in their local area and was really surprised at how bad they all are....which is a real shame because one of them is a genius. I was told that Somali kids are the worst performing on average, probably because most of them live in areas which generally have rubbish schools.

Having said that, I don't really know anything about schools in the US and knowing how clueless most Americans are I can only reach the conclusion that American schools are worse.

Yeah its a postcode lottery. Your education is based on your postcode, disgrace

surrender wrote:lol nobleman i know that. i used to get confused baryihii hora why are grown 30yr men in high school..

okay.

Eyes only-- merely the point I was trying to make, I came from a very structured system too- Where it was mandatory for you to pass each year in order to proceed to the next…starting from Primary education.

I am advocating for the system that doesn't let every Tom ceeb and Harry through to the next stage without examining their academic ability… And I only assumed that American system is somewhat similar to the last education system I received and only let's people progress to the next grade if they show competence… this could explain 20+ adults still in High School perhaps.( correct me if i am wrong)

Fah- at least the one that can't read in the 9th grade needs to pass before they can proceed to the next grade… Here chances are they will just finish secondary school like that or maybe with a little improvement and once they are 16 education is not compulsory anymore… so its up to them whether they start their education from scratch once again (foundation courses in college) or do some sort of labour on minimum wage.

The Secondary system here is just so pointless for those that strive on positive reinforcement or motivation for that matter.

Lol @ Postcode Lottery… that is so true walle, Somali people have cheek when they go through all types of courts and appeals trying to get their kids into the best schools located on the other side of the city and then try to apply for zero fare bus pass … this one always cracks me up

i have no experience with the american system,

gurey is a product of the british system

Lol... I am blessed to have experienced different education systems, but im sure the 'product' has good ol british quality in that case .

Loool@surrender sis i know what u mean ....why thafck do they pick 25-30yr olds to play high school kidz? America is full of young actors n yet they cant seem to find folks that will look the age they're supposed to be...

Government education for you.

eyes-only wrote:I wouldn't say the British education system is all that. When I first came here I found it a little strange to be honest coming from a very structured educational system to an almost laissez faire one. The educational success of the child depends mostly on the type of school they go to which is also influenced by which post code you happen to live in. Thankfully I went to school is the best performing borough in Greater London at the time but I really feel for those kids who have to study in inner city schools. There is also no real uniformity in that there are different types of schools such grammar schools and comprehensive schools...the former being better than the latter.

Schools in the UK also don't review the performance of the child as much as they should. They try to avoid exams and recently they even proposed scrapping primary school exams claiming that it was stressful for kids and unnecessary which I find totally nonsensical....they've probably already scrapped them. What I don't understand is, how are you supposed to determine the level of knowledge of the child if you don't even test them? My nephews are starting secondary school soon and I was looking at the performances of the high schools in their local area and was really surprised at how bad they all are....which is a real shame because one of them is a genius I was told that Somali kids are the worst performing on average, probably because most of them live in areas which generally have rubbish schools.

Having said that, I don't really know anything about schools in the US and knowing how clueless most Americans are I can only reach the conclusion that American schools are worse.

British children are the most tested children in Europe, yet they are falling behind their European counterparts in literacy and numeracy, clearly the SATs system isn't working. A child's progress can be monitered by their teacher using in class assesments, which may be a more accurate reflection of their capabilities not to mention less stressful!

Ms.Erudite wrote:
British children are the most tested children in Europe, yet they are falling behind their European counterparts in literacy and numeracy, clearly the SATs system isn't working. A child's progress can be monitered by their teacher using in class assesments, which may be a more accurate reflection of their capabilities not to mention less stressful!

That is exactly the same bullshit that comes out in the press. All I know is testing is important whether little quizzes or proper exams...they at least demonstrate how the child is performing. If the child is not doing well, then obviously they won't score well and something needs to be done. Stopping exams is not going to improve their literacy and numeracy.....it will just hide it or cover it up. The truth is kids in private schools perform well, kids in good grammar schools perform well, kids in good comprehensive schools perform well......how come those kids are not being affected by stress?

eyes-only wrote:

Ms.Erudite wrote:
British children are the most tested children in Europe, yet they are falling behind their European counterparts in literacy and numeracy, clearly the SATs system isn't working. A child's progress can be monitered by their teacher using in class assesments, which may be a more accurate reflection of their capabilities not to mention less stressful!

That is exactly the same bullshit that comes out in the press. All I know is testing is important whether little quizzes or proper exams...they at least demonstrate how the child is performing. If the child is not doing well, then obviously they won't score well and something needs to be done. Stopping exams is not going to improve their literacy and numeracy.....it will just hide it or cover it up. The truth is kids in private schools perform well, kids in good grammar schools perform well, kids in good comprehensive schools perform well......how come those kids are not being affected by stress?

Why is it 'bullshit' ? Even teachers, who spend their life dealing with this, are protesting against the SATs and threatening to not mark them. The system is clearly ineffective. Again exams are not the only method to monitor a child's progress...so any difficulties they have shouldn't be missed

The argument isn't that stress prevents a child from doing well, but impacts on their overall well being. Why should a 7 or 10yrold be worried about exams, that determine their future? Im sure teacher's are able gauge their strengths and weaknesses without the unnecessary pressure of exams.

Exams are not the be all and end all, they only demonstrate how well a child has been spoonfed!