somali slaves in Saudi arabia?

[Hyperactive]

i know Mauretania is legal but not sudan.

i know that for sure and by constitution is not legal.

[Grant]

Hyper,

The government of Sudan has many times made laws against slavery, and has claimed more than once to have eliminated it. But it is clear these laws are not, and never have been, enforced. Slavery, and slave sales in the Sudan are de-facto legal. While most of the eye-witness accounts are from Christian sources, the reports are too consistant, taken together with a long history and recent Sudanese and Egyptian fatwas, to ignore.

I don't think there can be any doubt that the slave trade continues today as part of the on-going Sudanese civil war, and that it includes Muslim as well as other tribespeople:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Sudan

http://www.lnsart.com/Sudan%20Slave%20Story.htm

http://wwww.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/Al ... 16005aae34

[Hyperactive]

you dont need to go sites against sudan government.

im telling you consititution is against slavery. it's not legal.

[Grant]

Hyper,

De Jure and De Facto are are entirely different animals. By Sudanese fatwa, slavery is legal. Sharica.Take your argument up with Wikipedia.

[Ina Baxar]

Even to this day the security details of the Emir of Kuwait are not only big but also from Somalia , they're bantus .

[American-Suufi]

in saudi arabia slavery was banned in the 1970's due to peresures from the united nations. if you go to riyad in saudi capital, you will see suuqal 3abiid and 7aarutal 3abiid, market and suberb of slaves. king khalid changed the slavery saudis due to american campaign. but these people were muslim africans not somalis.

[Hyperactive]

Hyper,

De Jure and De Facto are are entirely different animals. By Sudanese fatwa, slavery is legal. Sharica.Take your argument up with Wikipedia.

no i dont need to take to them.
they have problem they have to take it to the sudan officialy.

i know what im talking about. in constitution in sudan is elligal.

dont come to me, some fatwa some one said.

these days, every one can say fatwa and no law force you to take any fatwa.

it the fatwa has no base we reject it.

best thing about islam, we dont follow sheikhs blindly like christanity follow their preists.

islam is religion of reasoning.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

maxa la yaabsanahay. When did a countries constitution rival with the wordings of Wikipedia?

Tis amazing.

Salaam

[Hyperactive]

maxa la yaabsanahay. When did a countries constitution rival with the wordings of Wikipedia?

Tis amazing.

Salaam

excarly sister, odeygan wo walan yahay.

he thinks people will fall for wiki!!

wa a7maq odeygan amma wo isko dar darsamey.lol

[American-Suufi]

maxa la yaabsanahay. When did a countries constitution rival with the wordings of Wikipedia?

Tis amazing.

Salaam

you have been told the romantic version of salafism, not the full saudi version. in saudi arabia, slavery of muslim blacks was banned due to pressures from the united nations.

[Grant]

Hyper,

OK. Wa run tahay.

I am aware of what the constitution says. Now, please read what I wrote. The Sudanese government has never enforced this law. The de facto law in the Sudanese courts is Shariica, with a Takfiiri twist. The slave markets remain open.

[Hyperactive]

lol grant you're funny.

so why you bother quoting me wiki? do you think we're kids?

of course that law is inforced and go and buy slave and you will see if that allowed!!!

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

Hyperactive; Bro, he just wants an excuse against the Sudanese government, anything to bad mouth them, is credible enough it seems.They want to divide that country, hopefully the oil region will be under the US, I mean UN.

American Suufi; Kulli mar Saudi Arabia?

Grant; Look, Christian science, Wikipedia and Insart (?) cannot be called considered reliable soures! Are you joking with me.

Salaam

[Hyperactive]

lol i know but what this guy benefits from spreading his uncle sam pragpanda in here!!

wan o fiirsaday, odeygan wa snake!

[American-Suufi]

lol grant you're funny.

so why you bother quoting me wiki? do you think we're kids?

of course that law is inforced and go and buy slave and you will see if that allowed!!!

hyper

saudis practised slavery till 1970's this a fact and they are not not somali slaves but indebted muslim slaves. what islam says about slavery and what muslims do are 2 different things.