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Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

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Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby ms.naliaa » Wed May 06, 2009 10:52 am



Should Creationism Be Taught In Schools???
(in the west or back home)

As muslims we dont beleive in creationism.
But there are scientists that are claiming that darwanism is true and they have their so-called 'proof'.

Should it be taught? At what provisions? At what age?



Discuss.

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby Shirib » Wed May 06, 2009 10:55 am

As Muslims we believe in creationism that God created earth, man and everything on it and it should be taught to our kids back home .In the west however I don't think it should be taught, because it is a secular society which believes in seperation of church and state. I also think if teaching Darwinism or evolution it should be thought in a way that strictly says it is a theory and cannot be proven

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby Madd_Scientist_ » Wed May 06, 2009 11:23 am

it should be taught regardless of whether it's in the west or back home. :up:

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby Madd_Scientist_ » Wed May 06, 2009 11:28 am

Shirib wrote: I also think if teaching Darwinism or evolution it should be thought in a way that strictly says it is a theory and cannot be proven


that's being inconsiderate, just because you don't believe in darwinism does not mean that others don't. In that case Islam and other major religions should be taught as "an old mans tale".

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby Shirib » Wed May 06, 2009 11:30 am

Madd_Scientist_ wrote:
Shirib wrote: I also think if teaching Darwinism or evolution it should be thought in a way that strictly says it is a theory and cannot be proven


that's being inconsiderate, just because you don't believe in darwinism does not mean that others don't. In that case Islam and other major religions should be taught as "an old mans tale".


I don't think it is being inconsiderate.

I said lets teach it just don't pass it off as being a 100% truth because a lot of people don't believe in it

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby Madd_Scientist_ » Wed May 06, 2009 11:33 am

Shirib wrote:I said lets teach it just don't pass it off as being a 100% truth because a lot of people don't believe in it


a lot of people don't believe in Allah either shirib, so does that mean that Islam should be taught but not passed off as being 100% truthful?

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby hanqadh » Wed May 06, 2009 11:36 am

yes this is what makes muslims so backward, they refuse to except these concepts such as the thoery of evolution, etc.......we must meet these challenge's, you ask a muslim why dont you beleive in evolution?...because i beleive that god created the earth, thats not a sufficient answer, you must get down to evidence and try point out the flaws with this concept, you must be equiped with the knowledge hence why its important to teach it.

i recomend that it be tought in islamic countries...

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby Shirib » Wed May 06, 2009 11:38 am

Madd_Scientist_ wrote:
Shirib wrote:I said lets teach it just don't pass it off as being a 100% truth because a lot of people don't believe in it


a lot of people don't believe in Allah either shirib, so does that mean that Islam should be taught but not passed off as being 100% truthful?


Where in public schools in the west?

Yea it should be taught as a faith which many people believe in, not as something that they have to believe in

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby surrender » Wed May 06, 2009 12:11 pm

we (muslims) DO believe in Creationism, the islamic version of course, and yes definetly it should be taught at school. it over rides the fairy tale of theory of evolution that humans have created. it shows people the true version of evolution at a young age, and therefore gives them the upper hand and the ability to chose the correct path!! i personally was taught creationsim at malcamah at a very young age, it still stuck in my head, and thats one of the reasons why i can defend and dont buy humans fairy tales i.e darwinism.


The Koran, if one interprets it literally, teaches a six-day creation. Adam and Eve were created in innocent perfection and placed in a beautiful garden. Here Satan tempted them to rebel against God by eating the forbidden fruit, thus incurring God's wrath and judgment, and expulsion from the Garden.
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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby FAH1223 » Wed May 06, 2009 12:14 pm

Madd_Scientist_ wrote:
Shirib wrote:I said lets teach it just don't pass it off as being a 100% truth because a lot of people don't believe in it


a lot of people don't believe in Allah either shirib, so does that mean that Islam should be taught but not passed off as being 100% truthful?


dawrwinism is a religion it seems

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby ms.naliaa » Wed May 06, 2009 12:14 pm



If darwinsism is taught in schools...shouldnt monothiestic as well as polythiestic religions be taught as well? You cant teach one and not the other.

Many combat that darwinsim is a science rather than a 'religion' so where do you draw that line?

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby ms.naliaa » Wed May 06, 2009 12:17 pm

surrender wrote:we (muslims) DO believe in Creationism, the islamic version of course, and yes definetly it should be taught at school. it over rides the fairy tale of theory of evolution that humans have created. it shows people the true version of evolution at a young age, and therefore gives them the upper hand and the ability to chose the correct path!! i personally was taught creationsim at malcamah at a very young age, it still stuck in my head, and thats one of the reasons why i can defend and dont buy humans fairy tales i.e darwinism.


The Koran, if one interprets it literally, teaches a six-day creation. Adam and Eve were created in innocent perfection and placed in a beautiful garden. Here Satan tempted them to rebel against God by eating the forbidden fruit, thus incurring God's wrath and judgment, and expulsion from the Garden.
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Im talking about teacthing Darwinsim at school to children.
Do you agree with that? What age do you think they should teach them if at all?

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby surrender » Wed May 06, 2009 12:24 pm

ms.naliaa wrote:
surrender wrote:we (muslims) DO believe in Creationism, the islamic version of course, and yes definetly it should be taught at school. it over rides the fairy tale of theory of evolution that humans have created. it shows people the true version of evolution at a young age, and therefore gives them the upper hand and the ability to chose the correct path!! i personally was taught creationsim at malcamah at a very young age, it still stuck in my head, and thats one of the reasons why i can defend and dont buy humans fairy tales i.e darwinism.


The Koran, if one interprets it literally, teaches a six-day creation. Adam and Eve were created in innocent perfection and placed in a beautiful garden. Here Satan tempted them to rebel against God by eating the forbidden fruit, thus incurring God's wrath and judgment, and expulsion from the Garden.
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Im talking about teacthing Darwinsim at school to children.
Do you agree with that? What age do you think they should teach them if at all?



Ohh, in that case than, NO!! definetly NOT! Darwinsim was simply a theory created/coind by a man, not something was created from the above, it shows the human mind is so simple Can be mislead easily, unless the theory has some truth in it, i personally wouldn’t want my kids to learn such myth, and that’s one of the reasons, i don’t think if i have kids i would send them to state school. Private, Islamic it is! :up:


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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby ms.naliaa » Wed May 06, 2009 12:30 pm



Surrender:

Dont you think the theory should be taught (to an extend) you dont want to have children-turned adults that are ignorant of other 'ideaologies'.
You want to give your children all the amunition to fight back (verbally) when someone says argues with them about creationism. Knowing both sides of the coin gives you more power...dontcha think?

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Re: Lets have a discussion Vol. 3

Postby SummerRain » Wed May 06, 2009 12:31 pm

I agree with Surrender. :shock:


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